Abortion

[floridays]

You're projecting.

I've been wondering how you made the first and final cut.
On this Mother's Day, I'd bet your mom would appreciate a mulligan.

 

[bacha29]

Do you not take into account military bases in Red States? That's where a lot of the Federal spending goes. Weren't for Red Staters your weak kneed liberal ass would've been gunned down by a fellow communist a long time ago.

Oh did I make little Vannie mad simply because I brought to the forefront the unintended and quite possibly unfunded consequences resulting from an abortion ban and the potential impact millions in unpaid medical bills could have on those states healthcare systems? Not to mention Vannie himself is a guy who had to go to the hospital for care but had no health insurance.
And did I mention that little Vannie was lucky was cut some big time slack and was allowed to pay the same rate as those who PAID to purchase health insurance?

Therefore isn't it reasonable to conclude that there will be scores of others with no money no insurance but continue to have kids who like Vannie will game the system by stiffing the hospital with the bills they run up for kids they know they cannot support but give birth to anyway?

 

[floridays]

Oh did I make little Vannie mad simply because I brought to the forefront the unintended and quite possibly unfunded consequences resulting from an abortion ban and the potential impact millions in unpaid medical bills could have on those states healthcare systems? Not to mention Vannie himself is a guy who had to go to the hospital for care but had no health insurance.
And did I mention that little Vannie was lucky was cut some big time slack and was allowed to pay the same rate as those who PAID to purchase health insurance?

Therefore isn't it reasonable to conclude that there will be scores of others with no money no insurance but continue to have kids who like Vannie will game the system by stiffing the hospital with the bills they run up for kids they know they cannot support but give birth to anyway?

This was a thread about abortion, not illegal aliens and the intended or unintended consequences of allowing entry and safe harbor once here.
Don't begin being smug by trying to denigrate his thoughts because you think your argument has him on the run.

The argument you have offered, is fatally flawed, if consistency is a value you hold. I've been holding off on responding to your foolishness, continue berating and I'll join in further.

You offer flawed arguments constantly, generally devoid of factual or consistent basis. Tone it down smart guy.

 

[newfie]

I brought to the forefront the unintended and quite possibly unfunded consequences resulting from an abortion ban and the potential impact millions in unpaid medical bills could have on those states healthcare systems?

abortion is cost effective , and thus needed

 

[vantexan]

Oh did I make little Vannie mad simply because I brought to the forefront the unintended and quite possibly unfunded consequences resulting from an abortion ban and the potential impact millions in unpaid medical bills could have on those states healthcare systems? Not to mention Vannie himself is a guy who had to go to the hospital for care but had no health insurance.
And did I mention that little Vannie was lucky was cut some big time slack and was allowed to pay the same rate as those who PAID to purchase health insurance?

Therefore isn't it reasonable to conclude that there will be scores of others with no money no insurance but continue to have kids who like Vannie will game the system by stiffing the hospital with the bills they run up for kids they know they cannot support but give birth to anyway?

Name one bill I haven't paid? What gets me is how you constantly mischaracterize southerners and conservatives. You don't have a clue, you just make it up. I would hate to see the $100 trillion in debt world you conjure in your mind ever become reality.

 

[bacha29]

Name one bill I haven't paid? What gets me is how you constantly mischaracterize southerners and conservatives. You don't have a clue, you just make it up. I would hate to see the $100 trillion in debt world you conjure in your mind ever become reality.

Of course it's much easier especially medical bills when you can hang on the coattails of those taking the high road by purchasing medical insurance and making the necessary life style sacrifices in order to keep up with rising premiums No, I'm not mischaracterizing southern people. What I am calling into question is while in their zeal to ban abortion are they aware of the fact that in it's very first budget proposal their beloved president Trump wanted to make steep cuts to the federal share of the Medicaid program with the clearly stated objective to push the cost of the entire program back onto the states ? Should that happen are they prepared to absorb the loss of the federal funding share and deal with a huge increase in demand for services that could result from an abortion ban. ? In addition if you can't get an abortion in one state you just go to another where they can and leave it up to that state to pay for the service from their own Medicaid budget. Why should that state have to shoulder the burden?

 

[Old Man Jingles]

Name one bill I haven't paid? What gets me is how you constantly mischaracterize southerners and conservatives. You don't have a clue, you just make it up. I would hate to see the $100 trillion in debt world you conjure in your mind ever become reality.

He/she definitely has some mental issues.
It is apparent he is divorced from reality and seems to live in a future that he has constructed in his mind.
I would venture that drugs of some kind are involved.

 

[Indecisi0n]

Id like to wish all those mother's who aborted a happy mother's Day .

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

He/she definitely has some mental issues.
It is apparent he is divorced from reality and seems to live in a future that he has constructed in his mind.
I would venture that drugs of some kind are involved.

You're projecting.

 

[vantexan]

Of course it's much easier especially medical bills when you can hang on the coattails of those taking the high road by purchasing medical insurance and making the necessary life style sacrifices in order to keep up with rising premiums No, I'm not mischaracterizing southern people. What I am calling into question is while in their zeal to ban abortion are they aware of the fact that in it's very first budget proposal their beloved president Trump wanted to make steep cuts to the federal share of the Medicaid program with the clearly stated objective to push the cost of the entire program back onto the states ? Should that happen are they prepared to absorb the loss of the federal funding share and deal with a huge increase in demand for services that could result from an abortion ban. ? In addition if you can't get an abortion in one state you just go to another where they can and leave it up to that state to pay for the service from their own Medicaid budget. Why should that state have to shoulder the burden?

If your state wants to butcher babies then your state should bear the burden of doing such things.

 

[Brownt10]

A friend sent this to me on Myspace. I just don't see how a doctor could do these things.


It's a baby not a choice!!!!

If you're gonna act like an adult by having sex, then be prepared to handle the consequences

Think before you act

In September 1993, Brenda Pratt Shafer, a registered nurse with thirteen years of experience, was assigned by her nursing agency to an abortion clinic

Since Nurse Shafer considered herself "very pro-choice," she didn't think this assignment would be a problem

She was wrong

This is what Nurse Shafer saw:

"I stood at the doctor's side and watched him perform a partial-birth abortion on a woman who was six months pregnant. The baby's heartbeat was clearly visible on the ultrasound screen. The doctor delivered the baby's body and arms, everything but his little head. The baby's body was moving. His little fingers were clasping together. He was kicking his feet. The doctor took a pair of scissors and inserted them into the back of the baby's head, and the baby's arms jerked out in a flinch, a startle reaction, like a baby does when he thinks that he might fall. Then the doctor opened the scissors up. Then he stuck the high-powered suction tube into the hole and sucked the baby's brains out. Now the baby was completely limp. I never went back to the clinic.



But I am still haunted by the face of that little boy

It was the most perfect, angelic face I have ever seen

But what about if the baby had been aborted at a younger age.. say 6 weeks? When the baby is this young, doctors use the Saline Method, where they inject a salty saline solution into the mother's womb. You would think it would just poison the baby, but it actually burns it to death. Even though the baby is so young, on ultrasounds of the abortion, the fetus is seen pulling away from the poison as it is injected.. obviously wanting to stay alive.(The baby is intelligent enough to move away from the pain..but the child can't escape it)

Think about that before you say that unborn children can't feel pain

PASS THIS ON IF YOU BELIEVE ABORTION IS WRONG

Life is life, no matter how small

A baby cries for it's first and last time when it's aborted.



You can deny it, but its true

A baby is a living thing

ITS A BABY, NOT A CHOICE!
Repost this with the title: "It's a Baby not a choice

IF YOU CAN SIT THERE AND READ THIS WITHOUT IT BRINGING PAIN IN YOUR HEART OR A TEAR TO YOUR EYE THEN MAYBE YOU SHOULDNT BE HERE EITHER

5 states are allowing POST birth abortion. You liberals and Democrats need to put your little union views aside and agree this is murder!!!!! All you can think about is the union when trump who is not the best president wants to stop POST BIRTH ABORTION!

 

[Sportello]

You offer flawed arguments constantly, generally devoid of factual or consistent basis. Tone it down smart guy.

Wow! Talk about a lack of self awareness.

 

[floridays]

Wow! Talk about a lack of self awareness.

Not many attack my arguments, as you and he didn't haven't directly attacked my statement.
Take a shot.

 

[Brownt10]

Wow! Talk about a lack of self awareness.

Go to Infowars.com for your most up to date news the main stream media does not want you to see.

 

[floridays]

Go to Infowars.com for your most up to date news the main stream media does not want you to see.

You gotta point here buddy?
If so, state it in your own words.

 

[Brownt10]

You gotta point here buddy?
If so, state it in your own words.

Yes, the forum here is called abortion. So I mentioned how 5 states currently have post birth abortion which is killing the baby after it’s born. Majority of Americans are unaware and guess who does not cover it? Main stream media. I suggest go to a free press such as Infowars who covers this topic. There are other sources too. That’s my point. Research post birth abortion, your democratic reps are all for this but it’s okay I’m sure your a die hard union boy so if Democrats want to kill babies after birth then you will still vote democrat bc apparently they are for unions which they are in it for themselves

 

[floridays]

Yes, the forum here is called abortion. So I mentioned how 5 states currently have post birth abortion which is killing the baby after it’s born. Majority of Americans are unaware and guess who does not cover it? Main stream media. I suggest go to a free press such as Infowars who covers this topic. There are other sources too. That’s my point. Research post birth abortion, your democratic reps are all for this but it’s okay I’m sure your a die hard union boy so if Democrats want to kill babies after birth then you will still vote democrat bc apparently they are for unions which they are in it for themselves

You missed on your evaluation of me and I missed your other posts, we'll call it even.
We could be in the same camp.

 

[It will be fine]

Yes, the forum here is called abortion. So I mentioned how 5 states currently have post birth abortion which is killing the baby after it’s born. Majority of Americans are unaware and guess who does not cover it? Main stream media. I suggest go to a free press such as Infowars who covers this topic. There are other sources too. That’s my point. Research post birth abortion, your democratic reps are all for this but it’s okay I’m sure your a die hard union boy so if Democrats want to kill babies after birth then you will still vote democrat bc apparently they are for unions which they are in it for themselves

You really think infowars is a news source?

 

[Sportello]

Not many attack my arguments, as you and he didn't haven't directly attacked my statement.
Take a shot.

Most ignore your posts because your 'arguments' are usually just the ravings of a madman.

 

[Brownt10]

You really think infowars is a news source?

They report news mainly from other small news outlets and the free press. I don’t know what you call that but if it wasn’t for them pointing out the other side of the news and stories I wouldn’t know that your corrupt Democrats are pushing post birth abortion, don’t believe me look it up but Infowars did report that and I think it’s the biggest issue right now bc innocent babies are being killed after birth. It’s legal in 5 states. So you go watch your CNN which LIED about the Covington catholic school kids and hurt those kids reputation. Just an FYI Infowars might not be as big as fox or cnn although they were trending number 1 on Apple for news until they got banned but 90% of the media is owned by 6 outlets. So is it possible the mainstream is biased? Yes.