And these pieces of garbage refused to stand with UPS Freight.

[BigUnionGuy]

Which teamsters that you represented for your stint as BA are "men"? The ones that arent women or the ones that catered to your local and neighboring cronies fighting for power in glass houses? Please enlighten us to who are "men"...not that your or anyone's rendition is substantiated on here.
How 'bout the ones that work a day a week on fmla are men? The ones that flip upon regime change are men? The ones that cover for really weak representation are men because they wear the right color vest?
I think that I know but help us out.

Why do you keep changing screen names ?

You are like on number 4 or 5.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Hoffa had choices. The IBT Constitution is like law, it's an interpretation. He decided it was best to push the contract on the very people who voted it down. It is very clear what he could and should have done.

The General President has the right to interpret the constitution.

He does so with the advice of the GEB and the IBT attorneys.


Only 22% of the UPS members voted in the strike authorization vote.

They sealed their own fate.... and proved they weren't willing to walk.

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

I get it.... you despise men.

No- just slobs.

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

I get it.... you despise men.

I get it....you hate UPSers but love their money.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

I get it....you hate UPSers but love their money.

Union dues (not just UPS) pays the bills.

Fact of life.


What do you think gives the Union the ability to negotiate your wages and benefits ?

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

Union dues (not just UPS) pays the bills.

Fact of life.


What do you think gives the Union the ability to negotiate your wages and benefits ?

Yeah- no kidding Sherlock. Point is- you continually run down UPSers but I'm sure have no problem taking their money. (If you even are an "elected official). Lol.

 

[Rick Ross]

Only 22% of the UPS members voted in the strike authorization vote.

They sealed their own fate.... and proved they weren't willing to walk.

Would it be legal to force a member to participate in the strike vote in order to receive a ratification ballot?

It sucks to have members cast a majority vote only to be disregarded.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Would it be legal to force a member to participate in the strike vote in order to receive a ratification ballot ?

Absolutely not.

It sucks to have members cast a majority vote only to be disregarded.

That's the problem. The majority didn't vote.


The strike vote was a "feeler gauge" in ascertaining the support of a strike.

It wasn't there. Even in "97" when member support was high, people still crossed.


Do you think, the drivers that park their $70k truck and $50k bass boat at work

are voting no.... Or, are voting voting at all ?


Any "ride" by a supervisor, is an "exploratory" mission.

People run their mouth.


They know who they are dealing with....



-Bug-

 

[B-Brown]

Union dues (not just UPS) pays the bills.

Fact of life.


What do you think gives the Union the ability to negotiate your wages and benefits ?

'

'What was the percentage that voted for authorization?

 

[B-Brown]

Would it be legal to force a member to participate in the strike vote in order to receive a ratification ballot?

It sucks to have members cast a majority vote only to be disregarded.

Exactly what happened here. We met the parameters set and still had it forced on us.

 

[Rick Ross]

That's the problem. The majority didn't vote

I see the problem as the majority who did vote had their votes disregarded.

From what you've written in this post it's obvious the union thinks it will never strike again, and if we do, so many will cross that the strike will be over quickly. Add the negotiating skills of someone like D Taylor and we are absolutely hosed.

I think the votes cast should count. Let the dips who aren't involved be forced to suck it up or cross the picket line. If they cross I hope the members never forget and make their jobs so miserable they end up quitting. One contract being forced on non-voters would solve low turnout for a very long time, IMO.

 

[B-Brown]

I see the problem as the majority who did vote had their votes disregarded.

From what you've written in this post it's obvious the union thinks it will never strike again, and if we do, so many will cross that the strike will be over quickly. Add the negotiating skills of someone like D Taylor and we are absolutely hosed.

I think the votes cast should count. Let the dips who aren't involved be forced to suck it up or cross the picket line. If they cross I hope the members never forget and make their jobs so miserable they end up quitting. One contract being forced on non-voters would solve low turnout for a very long time, IMO.

BINGO!

 

[BigUnionGuy]

I see the problem as the majority who did vote had their votes disregarded.

From what you've written in this post it's obvious the union thinks it will never strike again, and if we do, so many will cross that the strike will be over quickly. Add the negotiating skills of someone like D Taylor and we are absolutely hosed.

I think the votes cast should count. Let the dips who aren't involved be forced to suck it up or cross the picket line. If they cross I hope the members never forget and make their jobs so miserable they end up quitting. One contract being forced on non-voters would solve low turnout for a very long time, IMO.

If you want to believe.... that UPS people are badass.... have at it.

 

[B-Brown]

If you want to believe.... that UPS people are badass.... have at it.

Well, we can at least say that without doubt, Hoffa and his cronies aren't "badass".

 

[Boywondr]

Why do you keep changing screen names ?

You are like on number 4 or 5.

Answer the questions.

 

[Boywondr]

The General President has the right to interpret the constitution.

He does so with the advice of the GEB and the IBT attorneys.


Only 22% of the UPS members voted in the strike authorization vote.

They sealed their own fate.... and proved they weren't willing to walk.

Walk for what reason? We walked for Carey because he wasnt a company man. You figure it out.

 

[UnconTROLLed]

Well, we can at least say that without doubt, Hoffa and his cronies aren't "badass".

they can badass a buffet

 

[Boywondr]

Absolutely not.





That's the problem. The majority didn't vote.


The strike vote was a "feeler gauge" in ascertaining the support of a strike.

It wasn't there. Even in "97" when member support was high, people still crossed.


Do you think, the drivers that park their $70k truck and $50k bass boat at work

are voting no.... Or, are voting voting at all ?


Any "ride" by a supervisor, is an "exploratory" mission.

People run their mouth.


They know who they are dealing with....



-Bug-

Out of 185,000 members what percentage crossed the line?.
It was minuscule at best.

 

[P700slave]

Why didn't Hoffa allow UPS Package to stand with UPS freight? POS

Because UPS owns him now.

 

[Boywondr]

I see the problem as the majority who did vote had their votes disregarded.

From what you've written in this post it's obvious the union thinks it will never strike again, and if we do, so many will cross that the strike will be over quickly. Add the negotiating skills of someone like D Taylor and we are absolutely hosed.

I think the votes cast should count. Let the dips who aren't involved be forced to suck it up or cross the picket line. If they cross I hope the members never forget and make their jobs so miserable they end up quitting. One contract being forced on non-voters would solve low turnout for a very long time, IMO.

They kicked Sean O'Brien off the negotiating team because he was talking "strike and how to prepare for it". @BigUnionGuy knows this and yet goads us for not passing a strike vote.
That's classic.
Cant have it both ways bud. You look femininanious.