Are you proud of America?

Are you proud of America?


  • Total voters
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rickyb

Well-Known Member
Hey Ricky, can you do me a favor and upload picture of how much Canada is taking out of your weekly check, for all that free and universal non sense?
ill let you know today or very soon.

thing is america spends all its money on war. so its just a different kind of government socialism.

healthcare per capita costs are about 50% as much as america. maybe 40% i dunno. our system is far more efficient, but not perfect.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
ill let you know today or very soon.

thing is america spends all its money on war. so its just a different kind of government socialism.

healthcare per capita costs are about 50% as much as america. maybe 40% i dunno. our system is far more efficient, but not perfect.
You’re delusional if you think the Canadian healthcare system is more efficient.

Show me show much you made and how much they took. I have a feeling that free health care isn’t very free.
 

It will be fine

Well-Known Member
You’re delusional if you think the Canadian healthcare system is more efficient.

Show me show much you made and how much they took. I have a feeling that free health care isn’t very free.
Lol, pretty much every developed nation has a more efficient healthcare system than the US. The only benefit to the US system is the promise to exploit any new techniques or drugs for massive profits. You’d have to be woefully uniformed to believe the US system is efficient by any measure.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
Lol, pretty much every developed nation has a more efficient healthcare system than the US. The only benefit to the US system is the promise to exploit any new techniques or drugs for massive profits. You’d have to be woefully uniformed to believe the US system is efficient by any measure.
Definitely affordability issues for a lot, but saying it isn’t more efficient than most government socialist programs is flat wrong.
 

BigBrown87

If it’s brown, it’s going down
ill let you know today or very soon.

thing is america spends all its money on war. so its just a different kind of government socialism.

healthcare per capita costs are about 50% as much as america. maybe 40% i dunno. our system is far more efficient, but not perfect.
Is that why people from Canada come over to the US to receive treatment. All because they dont want to wait 6 months for a procedure that could save their lives. Man sign me up for that piece of :censored2: universal healthcare. Sorry Ricky but your wrong your ideology is wrong, maybe one day you will wake up and realize how stupid you sound. I won't hold my breath or care either which way.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
I proud to live in a country where I can work for such a smile*hole company like UPS. My American dream is to sweat my balls off all day making deliveries to people who can't afford nearly half the stuff they order all the while making me enjoy a comfortable life and wealthy retirement.

your glass is half empty
 

It will be fine

Well-Known Member
Definitely affordability issues for a lot, but saying it isn’t more efficient than most government socialist programs is flat wrong.
We spend triple on administrative costs than even the highest evil socialist system. You need to define what you mean by efficient, we may be talking about different things.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
We spend triple on administrative costs than even the highest evil socialist system. You need to define what you mean by efficient, we may be talking about different things.
We are also administering to way more people. We are a bigger country. We also subsidize all these other nations pharmaceuticals.
 

BigBrown87

If it’s brown, it’s going down
We spend triple on administrative costs than even the highest evil socialist system. You need to define what you mean by efficient, we may be talking about different things.
You can thank Obamacare for that, prices for healthcare went up in Arizona 120% after Obamacare. Why do you think trump is in office? Russia? If you believe that you are as wacked out as the rest of the socialist liberals that run on that arguement. Giving free healthcare to people is not effective, efficient or a good solution to any country in the modern world we live in. Doctors come here to work and go to school because it pays the best and has the best doctors. Nobody wants to cut people open on 60,000 dollar salaries and it takes a lot of school and money to become a doctor.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
Figured a honest Canadian would let me know the facts about healthcare in your country. Sounds like :censored2: to me, but hey dont take my word take your fellow countryman's word for it. Up to 2 years for a surgery, yeah efficient as :censored2: if you ask me.
If he does have full time employement I want to see how much he is paying into that government boondoggle.
 

BigBrown87

If it’s brown, it’s going down
ill let you know today or very soon.

thing is america spends all its money on war. so its just a different kind of government socialism.

healthcare per capita costs are about 50% as much as america. maybe 40% i dunno. our system is far more efficient, but not perfect.
https://www.quora.com/How-much-percentage-of-US-Economy-is-war-based wrong again ricky 3% to 4% of GDP on department of defense, you idiot's are easy to prove your socialist lies are nothing but made up media crap. What else you got for me to google I can do this all day.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
see basque region in spain.

italy has 40,000 coops, the most of any country. emilia romagna region is 2/3rd coops.

every germany has worker codetermination where theres has to be some worker representation on the boards of companies. its a step in the right direction.
Italy is drowning in red ink too and may cause the unraveling of the European Union.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
I never said they were trying to escape. Just pointing to the fact that they did travel across the border and the Berlin Wall was intended to keep people out as much as it was to keep people in.
The East Germans and their Russian bosses certainly were concerned about Western agents roaming around, but as M.B. Rat pointed out the wall was about controlling their own population. And it's not related at all to the one Trump wants built.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
Is that why people from Canada come over to the US to receive treatment. All because they dont want to wait 6 months for a procedure that could save their lives. Man sign me up for that piece of :censored2: universal healthcare. Sorry Ricky but your wrong your ideology is wrong, maybe one day you will wake up and realize how stupid you sound. I won't hold my breath or care either which way.
piece of :censored2: universal healthcare which america is the only developed country not to adopt but currently has majority support in polls for??

ive never gone to america for healthcare, neither has anyone in my family. my granny died at 92 about 10 years ago. ive had 2 surgeries, 1 minor. for family doctors like a drop in clinic you can walk in same day. for specialists it can take months im not sure if thats based on waits or severity. for emergencies you go to emergency. some things arent covered.

look up "healthcare spending per capita" in images and you will see america is off the chart.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
$96 / month seems high for 2007. first of all there are only 2 provinces where you actually pay healthcare fees. all the other provinces its included in taxes. in BC its $35 / month maximum rate if you earn $50k or more, and thats if your employer doesnt cover it.

my parents got a family doctor but there is a shortage. i dont anymore because i havent looked for one and i like the clinic i go to.

there is efforts to privatize our healthcare because of big money in it. so of course with neoliberalism the government cuts taxes on the rich and defunds healthcare.

you can get second opinions. this is wrong.

my friend might go to america for stem cells or something but thats because hes very ill and its going to be expensive for him. only person i know whos ever gone there.
 
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