Arizona's anti-imigration law...

§ 1252c. Authorizing State and local law enforcement officials to arrest and detain certain illegal aliens

((§ 1252c. Authorizing State and local law enforcement officials to arrest and detain certain illegal aliens
Title 8 of the US Code as currently published by the US Government reflects the laws passed by Congress as of Feb.1, 2010, and it is this version that is published here.))

(a) In general Notwithstanding any other provision of law, to the extent permitted by relevant State and local law, State and local law enforcement officials are authorized to arrest and detain an individual who—
(1) is an alien illegally present in the United States; and
(2) has previously been convicted of a felony in the United States and deported or left the United States after such conviction,
but only after the State or local law enforcement officials obtain appropriate confirmation from the Immigration and Naturalization Service of the status of such individual and only for such period of time as may be required for the Service to take the individual into Federal custody for purposes of deporting or removing the alien from the United States.

(b) Cooperation The Attorney General shall cooperate with the States to assure that information in the control of the Attorney General, including information in the National Crime Information Center, that would assist State and local law enforcement officials in carrying out duties under subsection (a) of this section is made available to such officials.
 
But go ahead, Cowboy. I'm still waiting for those laws you were going to look up. And I'm also still waiting for that federal law that mirrors SB1070, in other words that is identical to SB1070.
\ Never said I was looking up any laws for you.
Mirroring of a law doesn't mean it is identical, (as Av8 said) the fact that one is a state law and the other a federal law will keep them from being identical.

You keep jumping back and forth with nonsensical rants about all sorts. Why don't you just start over, give the text along with the "chapter, book and verse" that you object to and why you object? If there is a particular section you feel is unconstitutional, explain why you think so. That will give us a common ground for discussion. Other than that it's just back and forth gibberish.
 

KingofBrown

Well-Known Member
Basically I do not agree with anything you said so just because I did not take the time to reply to the other gibberish does not mean that I agree with you. Listen AV 8.0, if you say that what I write is gibberish, you should take the time to say why and what’s gibberish what I write, and point it out. You can’t just say it’s gibberish. Here I agree that the individual states cannot pass a law, or they can and it will just be struck down by the courts, if it violates the Constitution. Good. I’m glad one more person has understand that polls don’t say too much in these cases. I think the problem you will end up having is that nothing in the law will interfere with constitutional rights. I think the best shot your side will have will be that this is traditionally the Federal governments responsibility except that they have ceded some of this authority already to the states. I know you do not want to believe it but it is against Federal law to enter this country without permission and now you will be breaking a state law as well. Federal officials can check the status of anyone they reasonably believe is in this country illegally and now under this state law so can local law enforcement officials. That’s our whole point. But, I’ve been debating on the way they’ll do. An immigration official is not the same as a Police Officer. You’re opening too many doors that’ll be hard to close, but I don’t think they’ll get to be opened. This is what people mean when they say the state law mirrors federal law. Then, it doesn’t mirror Federal Law. SB1070 doesn’t reproduce Federal law accurately, and that’s what I mean. No matter what you will chose to not believe this and honestly I do not care. No need to reply to me again I was just trying to help you out. If you want to help me out, look for something at least similar to Sec. 6. Section 13-3883. from HB2162. #5 in particular in a current Federal Law. I’m still looking for it. And if you don’t have the time to reply to that, then take the time to read SB1070.
 

KingofBrown

Well-Known Member

Never said I was looking up any laws for you. Mirroring of a law doesn't mean it is identical, (as Av8 said) the fact that one is a state law and the other a federal law will keep them from being identical. Then what the heck do you mean by saying that SB1070 mirrors Federal Law, that it has sections written the same as Federal Laws? LOL. So you think SB1070 reproduces Federal Law accurately. LOL. That’s a good joke. So if Texas passes a law in which it copies the whole Constitution and adds a section that says: A peace officer, without a warrant, may arrest a person if he has probable cause to believe the person has different political views than his. Do you think that law would reproduce our Constitution accurately, Cowboy? LOL. I bet you will.

You keep jumping back and forth with nonsensical rants about all sorts. Why don't you just start over, give the text along with the "chapter, book and verse" that you object to and why you object? If there is a particular section you feel is unconstitutional, explain why you think so. That will give us a common ground for discussion. Other than that it's just back and forth gibberish. I’ve already told you. Why don’t you go back to the posts and answer where I have cited SB1070 and my opinions. The one who’s jumping back and forth with nonsensical rants, it’s you, Texan. In this specified discussion, you and others are saying that SB1070 mirrors Federal Law. I’m telling you how it doesn’t. If you want to finally discuss about SB1070, go back a few pages. I’ve already pointed out the law several times, but you can’t give any argument for that, I guess.
 

toonertoo

Most Awesome Dog
Staff member
This is the reason we have this problem, among many many others. We elect idiots! What a uneducated moose, cheesehead!
I never knew Arizona did not border Mexico, did you. Put her out of her misery!
[video=youtube;Ggy__koIkJs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggy__koIkJs[/video]
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
I saw this clip on TV and thought....she can't be for real.....then I thought, gee the prez thinks there's 57 states....figures!
 

By KOB
So if Texas passes a law in which it copies the whole Constitution and adds a section that says:
A peace officer, without a warrant, may arrest a person if he has probable cause to believe the person has different political views than his. Do you think that law would reproduce our Constitution accurately, Cowboy? LOL. I bet you will.

Yea see this what I mean when I say gibberish, where the heck did this rant come from? This is just another attempt on your part to twist what the law says and what it does not say.
If I am indeed jumping back and forth, it's only to try and answer your ....hmmmmm....questions, my train of thought has been stright forward from the start. Your obvious attempts to get me to loose my temper are useless, not gonna happen.

 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
[FONT=Verdana,Sans-serif]Ariz. gov: Most illegal immigrants smuggling drugs[/FONT]
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Jun 26, 1:16 AM (ET)

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p {margin:12px 0px 0px 0px;} PHOENIX (AP) - Gov. Jan Brewer said Friday that most illegal immigrants entering Arizona are being used to transport drugs across the border, an assertion that critics slammed as exaggerated and racist.
Brewer said the motivation of "a lot" of the illegal immigrants is to enter the United States to look for work, but that drug rings press them into duty as drug "mules."
"I believe today, under the circumstances that we're facing, that the majority of the illegal trespassers that are coming into the state of Arizona are under the direction and control of organized drug cartels and they are bringing drugs in," Brewer said.
"There's strong information to us that they come as illegal people wanting to come to work. Then they are accosted and they become subjects of the drug cartel," she said.
Brewer's office later issued a statement in response to media reports of her comments. It said most human smuggling into Arizona is under the direction of drug cartels, which "are by definition smuggling drugs."

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Babagounj

Strength through joy
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/26/california.drugs.seized/index.html?hpt=T2
Authorities seize $45 million of narcotics in California drug bust


CNN) -- Authorities in southern California said the strong smell of marijuana helped them discover $45 million worth of drugs in the back of a tractor-trailer they had pulled over for a traffic violation. Deputies stopped the truck Wednesday morning, then opened the trailer after finding problems with the paperwork for the load, the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Office said Friday.
An "overwhelming odor" led investigators to about 20 tons of narcotics stashed in pallets in the back of the truck, including about 38,000 pounds of marijuana, 2,700 pounds of cocaine and 67 pounds of methamphetamine.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/16/us.marijuana.seizure/index.html?iref=obnetwork
Feds seize 7,200 pounds of pot in Arizona

By the CNN Wire Staff
(CNN) -- U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement says its agents seized more than 7,200 pounds of marijuana Monday in Tucson, Arizona.
"This is the largest narcotics seizure ICE has made in Arizona this year," said Rick Crocker, ICE deputy special agent in charge of Tucson.
ICE agents staked out a home in Tucson's foothills for days as part of an ongoing drug smuggling investigation. Then, after witnessing a GMC Yukon towing an 18-foot trailer pull into the driveway Monday, they got a warrant and conducted a raid, said a statement from ICE.
They discovered approximately 5,500 pounds of marijuana in the trailer and another 1,700 pounds in the residence, along with a sophisticated repackaging system in the house, the statement said.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
Narco submarine

A narco submarine being seized by a Mexican Navy helicopter unit. July 16, 2008

A narco submarine (also called narco sub, drug sub and Bigfoot submarine) is a type of custom-made ocean-going self-propelled semi-submersible (SPSS) vessel built by drug traffickers to smuggle drugs. They are especially known to be used by Colombian drug cartel members to export cocaine from Colombia to Mexico, which is often then transported overland to the United States.
First detected in 1993, they are popularly called submarines, though strictly speaking they are semi-submersibles since they cannot dive; most of the craft is submerged with little more than the cockpit and the exhaust gas pipes above the water. In other words, a narco sub is a surface vessel with a very low freeboard or low profile. Narco submarines are designed specifically to be nearly undetectable visually or by radar, sonar and infrared systems.
 

KingofBrown

Well-Known Member
Yea see this what I mean when I say gibberish, where the heck did this rant come from? This is just another attempt on your part to twist what the law says and what it does not say.
If I am indeed jumping back and forth, it's only to try and answer your ....hmmmmm....questions, my train of thought has been stright forward from the start. With what? With a sentence like this: Discrimination against illegals from Mexico is not racism.” –The Cowboy. I made you understand the absurdity of the sentence above. If you couldn’t understand the absurdity of such a sentence, how do you think you’re gonna’ understand such a vague and ambiguous law?Your obvious attempts to get me to loose my temper are useless, not gonna happen.


So, Cowboy, do you think that in that example, would that law mirror the Constitution? I bet you will. LOL. I don’t know why you keep ignoring and ignoring this: If you want to finally discuss about SB1070, go back a few pages. I’ve already pointed out the law several times, but you can’t give any argument for that, I guess.
 

KingofBrown

Well-Known Member
LOL. I bet she would sign SB1070, too. But, she's not that sexy as governor Brewer, so I wouldn't excuse her for such a thing.


This is the reason we have this problem, among many many others. We elect idiots! What a uneducated moose, cheesehead!
I never knew Arizona did not border Mexico, did you. Put her out of her misery!
[video=youtube;Ggy__koIkJs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggy__koIkJs[/video]
 

KingofBrown

Well-Known Member
Hey, Cowboy, what does this have to do about what SB1070 says? Or what does it even have to do with the 12 to 15 million illegal immigrants? I bet you just like reading the subliminal propaganda, and that's why you don't say nothing about it. LOL.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/26/california.drugs.seized/index.html?hpt=T2
Authorities seize $45 million of narcotics in California drug bust


CNN) -- Authorities in southern California said the strong smell of marijuana helped them discover $45 million worth of drugs in the back of a tractor-trailer they had pulled over for a traffic violation. Deputies stopped the truck Wednesday morning, then opened the trailer after finding problems with the paperwork for the load, the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Office said Friday.
An "overwhelming odor" led investigators to about 20 tons of narcotics stashed in pallets in the back of the truck, including about 38,000 pounds of marijuana, 2,700 pounds of cocaine and 67 pounds of methamphetamine.
 
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