At UPS, the Algorithm Is the Driver

[BigUnionGuy]

Orion has potential to be a really good system.

If you can "walk" through the truck.

It just isn't quite there yet.

And, will never be.

It is meant to reduce, or eliminate, the need for management positions.



-Bug-

 

[wayfair]

Orion has potential to be a really good system.

I have over 50 pieces in section 7 today, 3 different neighborhoods.

 

[FrigidAdCorrector]

I have over 50 pieces in section 7 today, 3 different neighborhoods.

That's why I said "potential" not that it works right now.

 

[Wally]

Somebody tell ORION that drivers do what they do for a reason, like not getting hit crossing the street, or to get bulk off, or to be near a certain area for lunch.

 

[toonertoo]

It could have been good. They didnt ask for input or take anything into consideration either. And I had no 6 days, I got two, and then I was told to work out the bugs which is like 15 times a day. So there goes my 15/100 choices I get to make. The flawed system causes me to do those to make service.
And then you have to figure out how to put it back together and not miss stuff left behind.
If they spent so much money on it, why not spend more to make it work? If I have 5 50 pd pkgs at a residence, I aint crossing the street. I am not delivering business after they close. I am not delivering 50 boxes of books at 4pm, to a school that I cannot get into between 2 and 3 because of buses, and I cant fit in in my day before that. It totally sucks. It gives me nightmares.

 

[2 hrs over allowed]

We are about to go on ORION and one of the team members said that if you look at ten different delivery addresses, there are over a million different combinations as to what order you could run them.

Haven't heard Orion mentioned by management since last summer. Wonder why?

 

[toonertoo]

Haven't heard Orion mentioned by management since last summer. Wonder why?

I wish they would forget it here also.

 

[oldngray]

“Can a human really think of the best way to deliver 120 stops? This is where the algorithm will come in. It will explore paths of doing things you would not, because there are just too many combinations,” says Jack Levis, senior director of process management at UPS.
http://blogs.wsj.com/cio/2015/02/17/ups-business-rides-on-orion-routing-algorithm/

I have to wonder how those dumb truck drivers were ever able to get anything done using only their own brains.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

No

10x9x8x7x6x5x4x3x2=

10! (10 factorial)

 

[realbrown1]

We are about to go on ORION and one of the team members said that if you look at ten different delivery addresses, there are over a million different combinations as to what order you could run them.

Yes. One or 2 good ways, and almost a million stupid ways.

 

[brown metal coffin]

And maybe 2-3 that make any damn sense.

This is the problem. My brain doesn't see the billions of options and decide between them. It's sees the handful that make a shred of sense and decides between them.

Unless your UPS and trying to resolve the most simplest of problems using common core math.

 

[TooTechie]

No

10x9x8x7x6x5x4x3x2=

Math was never my area of expertise.

 

[Dragon]

If you can "walk" through the truck.



And, will never be.

It is meant to reduce, or eliminate, the need for management positions.



-Bug-

No its to get rid of too many overpaid under performing drivers ....

 

[ZQXC]

Seems there is a difference of opinions....

 

[3 done 3 to go]

No its to get rid of too many overpaid under performing drivers ....

Come on now. It's our safety that matters. Right?? Performance comes 2nd. How's the nice warm office?

 

[Scottyhawk]

The first I do after downloading edd is hitting the RDO key, problem solved

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

No its to get rid of too many overpaid under performing drivers ....

No it's too manipulate an underperforming stock.

 

[Brownslave688]

“Can a human really think of the best way to deliver 120 stops? This is where the algorithm will come in. It will explore paths of doing things you would not, because there are just too many combinations,” says Jack Levis, senior director of process management at UPS.
http://blogs.wsj.com/cio/2015/02/17/ups-business-rides-on-orion-routing-algorithm/

I have to wonder how those dumb truck drivers were ever able to get anything done using only their own brains.

ing morons.

I may be a dumb truck driver but I eliminate 99% of the possibilities within a second. It's explores combination I never thought Of cause they make zero sense.

This could be one of the most awesome jobs around. Instead we are treated like kindergarteners and they act like the job is advanced calculus.

 

[selfcancelsignal]

I wish they would forget it here also.

I already feel like this & we haven't even got it yet. Sometime this year, I'm told.

 

[selfcancelsignal]

The first I do after downloading edd is hitting the RDO key, problem solved

I have a feeling I'll be doing this every day too.