Can UPS truck back into my driveway?

[nWo]

Bad defensive parking by the driver.

 

[NAHimGOOD]

I need your help please. I hope this is the right section for this type post.

One day as I was getting into my Tahoe, I saw the ups truck parked Up the street in front of the house catty-corner to mine. He was parked to the right out of my driveway and slightly up hill with front facing downhill.

I looked in both side mirrors and review then began backing out my driveway using my drivers side mirror to watch the edge of the driveway. I had clear site to the street.

There was a collision between the rear of my vehicle and the rear of the UPS truck about 20-25 feet from the end of my driveway.

I pulled forward a couple of feet, got out and yelled for the driver. He came out the side door - not drivers side- with a package. I said I just backed into you! He said I know, what do you want me to do about it? I said I want you to fix my truck. He said he needed to call his boss.
I said I’m not expecting a package. He said it’s for the house across the street.
I asked why didnt he park in their driveway? He said he couldn’t fit in it. (Other UPS drivers have and that driveway was empty)
My driveway is wider but not two lane wide.
He was backed in at a slight angle, front tires slightly turned down hill with drivers side of truck on the edge of concrete.
My Tahoe was along the opposite side and the UPS truck could not be seen in my drivers side mirror.
I took pictures of everything including the package addressed to neighbor across the street.
He called his supervisor who was very rude and a smart Alec when I spoke with him.
I told him what happened. He, the supervisor said his drivers don’t park on the street so that didn’t happen. He said his drivers are required to park off the street even in driveways and it sounds like it was my fault. I told him I didn’t want the driver to get in trouble but even if I couldn’t prove the driver was backing in the same time I was backing out, the driver wasn’t even delivering to my house. He said oh he’s going to be in trouble.
He then said, so what you want is for us to not park in your driveway anymore? I said no! I want you to repair my bumper. He laughed and said he’s send so one out to take pictures later that day. His driver needed to get back in the road.
A young man, , came out and ask me what happened. I told him and he took pictures of the driveways and the area. He said hardly anything.
the supervisor called me “to inform me” if UPS finds any damage to our truck we will be filing a claim against you.
I was furious and told him go ahead. I thought no way was this going to be my fault.
Rather than go through a fight I finally chose to pay my own out of pocket but couldn’t right away because it was going to be about $1400. Next thing I know UPS has filed against my insurance for $300.
I talked with adjuster, gave my statement and they sent appraiser Which was within $100 of estimate I had.
My insurance deemed me at fault. The driver said he was already parked in my driveway and in the back getting the package for across the street. My female adjuster screamed at me and asked what if the driver had been behind his truck and I had hit him. She was very sympathetic to the UPS driver possibly being reprimanded.

Because of this $300 claim that I disagree with, my insurance premium has gone up $53 a month.
I can’t prove the driver was backing- the appraiser from the ins company said from the angle of the damage he had to be backing while I was but I can’t prove that and the driver says he was parked.
Does UPS instruct drivers to park where they want?
We’ve seen this driver park on the street throughout the neighborhood several times since.
Am I just out of luck here?
Thank you if You read this far.

The oddest thing about this...

You backed into a parked vehicle.

Got mad at everyone involved.

Got mad at people you drug into this because they told you that you couldn't drive.

Then... I'm sure to everyone's surprise...

You still try and work the angle of trying to prove the other driver was in motion.

Even after your statement.

But the best thing is...

Everyone has a ring doorbell or cameras.

Why haven't you just produced video from you or your neighbors cameras?

On topic

Just like the edited post were.

Helping.

 

[quad decade guy]

JoanC, we understand your frustration. The driver shouldn't have used your driveway if he wasn't delivering to your house. I've never done that, can't believe someone would. From a legal standpoint, it looks like you hit a parked vehicle. UPS trucks track everything and our telematics would show whether he was parked.

Just so you know, internally, he was charged with an accident which is the worst thing to happen to us short of being fired. Yes, we get charged for an accident when someone else hits us. But legally, for insurance purposes, the usual law applies.

How do you know what happened to the driver?

Some of what you say may or may not be true.

 

[Trucker Clock]

then began backing out my driveway using my drivers side mirror to watch the edge of the driveway. I had clear site to the street.

I get it. You did not expect a UPS truck to be in your driveway. But, by only looking out your drivers side mirror while backing, you could not see if anything was behind you in your driveway. No, he should not have been in your driveway delivering to a neighbor. But he was there and you hit him without even seeing him. It could have been the mailman, could have been a repair van, maybe thinking he was at the right address, could have been a kid.

Point taken although no little kids in the area and the incident happened at noon when kids were in school.

You expected nobody to be behind you as you backed just because there are no kids in the area, or they should be in school?

But there can always be an exception.

Yes there can. You need to learn how to back. Use your rearview mirror and camera to actually look BEHIND your vehicle as you back, not just along the side of your vehicle. You're backing up not knowing what is behind you. You're just assuming that there is nothing behind you.

Even if you were both backing at the same time, you did not see the UPS truck behind you. That is a problem. That could have been a person. I am sorry to be so blunt.

You're insurance company already told you that you were at fault. This is YOUR insurance company. Quit looking for someone else to blame and learn how to back. Luckily, this was only property damage. Learn from it. You could kill someone. Again, sorry for being so blunt.

 

[Babagounj]

Post on your property that all non residents vehicles are subject to towing.
That the property is under surveillance and all offenders will be prosecuted by all legal means including social media.

 

[olroadbeech]

Another Judge Judy episode......no one ever wants to take responsibility.
My county owns 8 foot access from end of road so technically anyone can use that part of drive.

 

[Red Devil]

You stupidly backed into a parked vehicle. Your name is Joan which means you’re probably way to old to even be driving anymore.

New contract proposal. We should be allowed to conduct citizens’ arrests and revoke people’s licenses on the spot any time we deem necessary.

 

[Sixth Punch Sense]

Every so often I read a post and wonder if some old timer is bored made a burner account and posted some for fun. Or numbers/views for the forums are down so somebody creates a burner account to increase said numbers.

This is one of those posts

 

[NAHimGOOD]

You thought the driver had your weed , but they did not & now your pissed off.

You saying she rammed the guy because he wasn't the DHL dealer?

I can see that

 

[over9five]

And she comes here looking for advice from drivers.... to help blame it on a driver ?

Wow.

I agree. I'm amazed at my fellow Teamsters who are throwing the driver under the bus.
Her insurance company even told her she was at fault, why are you helping her in any way?

 

[jimdandy3]

I need your help please. I hope this is the right section for this type post.

One day as I was getting into my Tahoe, I saw the ups truck parked Up the street in front of the house catty-corner to mine. He was parked to the right out of my driveway and slightly up hill with front facing downhill.

I looked in both side mirrors and review then began backing out my driveway using my drivers side mirror to watch the edge of the driveway. I had clear site to the street.

There was a collision between the rear of my vehicle and the rear of the UPS truck about 20-25 feet from the end of my driveway.

I pulled forward a couple of feet, got out and yelled for the driver. He came out the side door - not drivers side- with a package. I said I just backed into you! He said I know, what do you want me to do about it? I said I want you to fix my truck. He said he needed to call his boss.
I said I’m not expecting a package. He said it’s for the house across the street.
I asked why didnt he park in their driveway? He said he couldn’t fit in it. (Other UPS drivers have and that driveway was empty)
My driveway is wider but not two lane wide.
He was backed in at a slight angle, front tires slightly turned down hill with drivers side of truck on the edge of concrete.
My Tahoe was along the opposite side and the UPS truck could not be seen in my drivers side mirror.
I took pictures of everything including the package addressed to neighbor across the street.
He called his supervisor who was very rude and a smart Alec when I spoke with him.
I told him what happened. He, the supervisor said his drivers don’t park on the street so that didn’t happen. He said his drivers are required to park off the street even in driveways and it sounds like it was my fault. I told him I didn’t want the driver to get in trouble but even if I couldn’t prove the driver was backing in the same time I was backing out, the driver wasn’t even delivering to my house. He said oh he’s going to be in trouble.
He then said, so what you want is for us to not park in your driveway anymore? I said no! I want you to repair my bumper. He laughed and said he’s send so one out to take pictures later that day. His driver needed to get back in the road.
A young man, , came out and ask me what happened. I told him and he took pictures of the driveways and the area. He said hardly anything.
the supervisor called me “to inform me” if UPS finds any damage to our truck we will be filing a claim against you.
I was furious and told him go ahead. I thought no way was this going to be my fault.
Rather than go through a fight I finally chose to pay my own out of pocket but couldn’t right away because it was going to be about $1400. Next thing I know UPS has filed against my insurance for $300.
I talked with adjuster, gave my statement and they sent appraiser Which was within $100 of estimate I had.
My insurance deemed me at fault. The driver said he was already parked in my driveway and in the back getting the package for across the street. My female adjuster screamed at me and asked what if the driver had been behind his truck and I had hit him. She was very sympathetic to the UPS driver possibly being reprimanded.

Because of this $300 claim that I disagree with, my insurance premium has gone up $53 a month.
I can’t prove the driver was backing- the appraiser from the ins company said from the angle of the damage he had to be backing while I was but I can’t prove that and the driver says he was parked.
Does UPS instruct drivers to park where they want?
We’ve seen this driver park on the street throughout the neighborhood several times since.
Am I just out of luck here?
Thank you if You read this far.

Is this the first time you left your house since covid started?

 

[Est.1998]

I agree. I'm amazed at my fellow Teamsters who are throwing the driver under the bus.
Her insurance company even told her she was at fault, why are you helping her in any way?

 

[UnionStrong]

I need your help please. I hope this is the right section for this type post.

One day as I was getting into my Tahoe, I saw the ups truck parked Up the street in front of the house catty-corner to mine. He was parked to the right out of my driveway and slightly up hill with front facing downhill.

I looked in both side mirrors and review then began backing out my driveway using my drivers side mirror to watch the edge of the driveway. I had clear site to the street.

There was a collision between the rear of my vehicle and the rear of the UPS truck about 20-25 feet from the end of my driveway.

I pulled forward a couple of feet, got out and yelled for the driver. He came out the side door - not drivers side- with a package. I said I just backed into you! He said I know, what do you want me to do about it? I said I want you to fix my truck. He said he needed to call his boss.
I said I’m not expecting a package. He said it’s for the house across the street.
I asked why didnt he park in their driveway? He said he couldn’t fit in it. (Other UPS drivers have and that driveway was empty)
My driveway is wider but not two lane wide.
He was backed in at a slight angle, front tires slightly turned down hill with drivers side of truck on the edge of concrete.
My Tahoe was along the opposite side and the UPS truck could not be seen in my drivers side mirror.
I took pictures of everything including the package addressed to neighbor across the street.
He called his supervisor who was very rude and a smart Alec when I spoke with him.
I told him what happened. He, the supervisor said his drivers don’t park on the street so that didn’t happen. He said his drivers are required to park off the street even in driveways and it sounds like it was my fault. I told him I didn’t want the driver to get in trouble but even if I couldn’t prove the driver was backing in the same time I was backing out, the driver wasn’t even delivering to my house. He said oh he’s going to be in trouble.
He then said, so what you want is for us to not park in your driveway anymore? I said no! I want you to repair my bumper. He laughed and said he’s send so one out to take pictures later that day. His driver needed to get back in the road.
A young man, , came out and ask me what happened. I told him and he took pictures of the driveways and the area. He said hardly anything.
the supervisor called me “to inform me” if UPS finds any damage to our truck we will be filing a claim against you.
I was furious and told him go ahead. I thought no way was this going to be my fault.
Rather than go through a fight I finally chose to pay my own out of pocket but couldn’t right away because it was going to be about $1400. Next thing I know UPS has filed against my insurance for $300.
I talked with adjuster, gave my statement and they sent appraiser Which was within $100 of estimate I had.
My insurance deemed me at fault. The driver said he was already parked in my driveway and in the back getting the package for across the street. My female adjuster screamed at me and asked what if the driver had been behind his truck and I had hit him. She was very sympathetic to the UPS driver possibly being reprimanded.

Because of this $300 claim that I disagree with, my insurance premium has gone up $53 a month.
I can’t prove the driver was backing- the appraiser from the ins company said from the angle of the damage he had to be backing while I was but I can’t prove that and the driver says he was parked.
Does UPS instruct drivers to park where they want?
We’ve seen this driver park on the street throughout the neighborhood several times since.
Am I just out of luck here?
Thank you if You read this far.

You hit him, you pay. Period

 

[shartpost]

Thank you. However, I feel he and I were both moving. Some of you have been very nice and I appreciate it.

And I "feel" you hit a stationary vehicle without checking your surroundings. Feelings don't matter in the real world.

 

[Covemastah]

Not Joan's fault. Everyone is entitled to just hop into the car in their own driveway and back out ,why should you have to look for on coming cars , people walking on side walk in front of your own driveway , etc etc , plus the UPS truck is so small I can see why she didn't see it !

 

[BSWALKS]

Not Joan's fault. Everyone is entitled to just hop into the car in their own driveway and back out ,why should you have to look for on coming cars , people walking on side walk in front of your own driveway , etc etc , plus the UPS truck is so small I can see why she didn't see it !

You'd still invite her uptah camp

 

[textat3]

You need to be more careful…..what if there was a kid behind you? Stop blaming other people for your mistakes. MAN UP SON. You sound like you may have been on something. Please get the help that you need.

 

[Buffet Master]

Even after being married all these years, I still enjoy rear ending the old lady.

 

[Re-Raise]

Not Joan's fault. Everyone is entitled to just hop into the car in their own driveway and back out ,why should you have to look for on coming cars , people walking on side walk in front of your own driveway , etc etc , plus the UPS truck is so small I can see why she didn't see it !

Exactly! I’m always amazed how a truck that size is practically invisible to people

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Exactly! I’m always amazed how a truck that size is practically invisible to people

And now you're getting A/C.

After all the effort the company makes.... what do you drivers want ?