Attention Part Timers!!!

[DELACROIX]

Nobody here is stopping a part-timer from signing a full-time driving bid.


You should be ashamed of yourself

If @PT Car Washer was under the Western, all those years he worked full time would be credited to his final pension benefit even if he was listed as a part timer. His final pension benefit would probably be 3 X as much if he went now. The same formula can be applied to those in the other conferences or regions even under the Central. The Western also have "NO CAPS" so you continue to accrue additional pension benefits after 35 years of service, even if @PT Car Washer signed a full time bid he would still have to start all over again to gain pension credits as a full timer.

Not sure if he has to work 5 years under the IBT/UPS Pension plan to get vesting credits. It probably wouldn't affect him because of his age, but there is a 6 % penalty for every year prior to age 65 for both the UPS Pension Plan for part timers and the IBT/UPS Pension Plan for full timers in the Central. Most of the Full Timers under the Central and Southern have 5 to 10 years part time service before they signed and won a full time bid, like I mentioned before most of those members consider that pocket change because of the pension formula currently in place under that Company controlled pension plan.

 

[Sacrificial Lamb]

 

[Sacrificial Lamb]

Three words only...

I like cheddar?

 

[Sacrificial Lamb]

If @PT Car Washer was under the Western, all those years he worked full time would be credited to his final pension benefit even if he was listed as a part timer. His final pension benefit would probably be 3 X as much if he went now. The same formula can be applied to those in the other conferences or regions even under the Central. The Western also have "NO CAPS" so you continue to accrue additional pension benefits after 35 years of service, even if @PT Car Washer signed a full time bid he would still have to start all over again to gain pension credits as a full timer.

Not sure if he has to work 5 years under the IBT/UPS Pension plan to get vesting credits. It probably wouldn't affect him because of his age, but there is a 6 % penalty for every year prior to age 65 for both the UPS Pension Plan for part timers and the IBT/UPS Pension Plan for full timers in the Central. Most of the Full Timers under the Central and Southern have 5 to 10 years part time service before they signed and won a full time bid, like I mentioned before most of those members consider that pocket change because of the pension formula currently in place under that Company controlled pension plan.

I need to learn more about how our pension works. I’ve been severely lacking in that department.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

If @PT Car Washer was under the Western, all those years he worked full time would be credited to his final pension benefit even if he was listed as a part timer. His final pension benefit would probably be 3 X as much if he went now. The same formula can be applied to those in the other conferences or regions even under the Central. The Western also have "NO CAPS" so you continue to accrue additional pension benefits after 35 years of service, even if @PT Car Washer signed a full time bid he would still have to start all over again to gain pension credits as a full timer.

Not sure if he has to work 5 years under the IBT/UPS Pension plan to get vesting credits. It probably wouldn't affect him because of his age, but there is a 6 % penalty for every year prior to age 65 for both the UPS Pension Plan for part timers and the IBT/UPS Pension Plan for full timers in the Central. Most of the Full Timers under the Central and Southern have 5 to 10 years part time service before they signed and won a full time bid, like I mentioned before most of those members consider that pocket change because of the pension formula currently in place under that Company controlled pension plan.

What he's doing we stopped here
He is gaming the system and should be embarrassed about screwing somebody out of full-time job

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I like peckers?

Holy hell man.

 

[Sacrificial Lamb]

Holy hell man.

LOL!

 

[Wally]

Target pays 24/hr in most large cities

Any low pay-cryin' part-timer's should quit UPS and work there.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Nobody here is stopping a part-timer from signing a full-time driving bid.


You should be ashamed of yourself

We currently have a FT hiring freeze.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Until you blow out a knee at your BJJ class and you're not fortunate enough to be on Daddy's plan until you're 26. It's called insurance because stuff happens.

What is a BJJ class?

 

[PT Car Washer]

Doesn’t matter the workers attitude towards it. It’s still money that goes for that employee

No it doesn't go to that employee. It goes into a large pot for all employees but mostly for broken down delivery drivers and over weight Feeder drivers.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

No it doesn't go to that employee. It goes into a large pot for all employees but mostly for broken down delivery drivers and over weight Feeder drivers.

Don't you claim to be 67.... and a long distance runner ?

 

[TeltBender]

Well then UPS is not for everyone.

This is the kind of thinking I will laugh at when the “skilled” driver undoubtedly have their jobs replaced by self driving cars in the next 30 years

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

We currently have a FT hiring freeze.

You should be ashamed of yourself

 

[BadIdeaGuy]

This is an issue almost everyone seems to have silly positions on.

The “union brothers” who are full time look down on their part time brothers and see the low pay and 17 hours a week as some sort of mandatory hazing.

It’s complete BS that the company has managed to turn this into a “we vs they” thing.

I’m ashamed of the drivers that have the “screw the pters” mentality. That’s not a brotherhood.

We fight for a good contract for us all collectively. That’s the whole point of unionization.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

This is an issue almost everyone seems to have silly positions on.

The “union brothers” who are full time look down on their part time brothers and see the low pay and 17 hours a week as some sort of mandatory hazing.

It’s complete BS that the company has managed to turn this into a “we vs they” thing.

I’m ashamed of the drivers that have the “screw the pters” mentality. That’s not a brotherhood.

We fight for a good contract for us all collectively. That’s the whole point of unionization.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Don't you claim to be 67.... and a long distance runner ?

Training for a 5k just for my health. Wouldn't call it long distance. Also enjoy biking.

 

[Pullman Brown]

No it doesn't go to that employee. It goes into a large pot for all employees but mostly for broken down delivery drivers and over weight Feeder drivers.

Seriously. You just like to argue. Those are employees.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Seriously. You just like to argue. Those are employees.

Just saying that the older out of shape FT members use a disproportionate amount of the health care benefits as young PT members.

 

[Jetboat1]

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The cost of healthcare has grown much faster than inflation. So, the total compensation cost of part time workers is way up considering the cost of healthcare. If UPS want to give a higher wage to part timers like 25 an hour to start without healthcare ok but allow senior part timers to keep healthcare.