One more thing, If drivers were really happy with all the daily details of ups life and there was a real effort by all drivers to develop more volume this company could probably gain another 500-800 thousand packages a day. If you think about that its pretty amazing. I know drivers who have told me that if they ask some of their customers for their outbound volume that they would EASILY be able to win it from the competition. But since they already are working 11 hours, well thats just more work with no time for. Ups management, are you listening to this. More volume just for asking but no help or relief. If you time this by thousands of drivers across the us, its alarming. Remember the old saying that 20 new packages=1 new ups job. Well Im not sure I believe it. Thats why growth will be study but slow.