bernie sanders for prez pushing socialist worker cooperatives

watdaflock?

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I don’t think you understand how BS’s platform works or how these “socialist” European countries pay for their “Free” healthcare. I’ll give you a hint, you can take every penny from the “1%” and still not pay for it.
What specific country are you attempting to compare us with? NEWS FLASH- We have a congress, senate and a lot of other reasons why America would never turn into a pure "socialist" country.
"Democratic socialism is a political philosophy that advocates political democracy alongside social ownership of the means of production, with an emphasis on self-management and democratic management of economic institutions within a market or some form of decentralised planned socialist economy."
 

Box Ox

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"Democratic socialism is a political philosophy that advocates political democracy alongside social ownership of the means of production

Hard leftists should get their story straight regarding what the full implementation of democratic socialism would actually look like. Some say it just means more government programs. While others say it also includes social ownership of the means of production. Which would be nuts.

From Bernie Sanders’ CNN town hall that I watched last night:

“CUOMO: You were asked earlier on, as a quick follow on this, what do you feel differently about now? I was reviewing what CNN's K-File had come up, taking a look at your evolution in politics. You used to argue that you should have government control the means of capitalism, energy companies...

(CROSSTALK)

SANDERS: When did I say that?

CUOMO: In the '70s.

SANDERS: OK, right.“

From @bbsam 2 days ago right here on BC:

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Whitelightning1534

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so you dont believe in getting raises because according to you prices automatically rise when wages do?[/QUOTE

Prices will go up but imo I don't think jobs such as fast food are worth $15/hr if a high school kid can do it the way I see it is if the minimum wage goes up to $15/he than the government might try to take more taxes but companies such as McDonald's are seeing it as instead of paying workers $15/hr they can just replace them for automated kiosks
 

rickyb

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do you believe in getting raises or not?

automation is good, but then if too many people have their jobs replaced we have to sort that out so we still have justice and democracy.
 

Whitelightning1534

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Automation is good to a point I'll use UPS as an example I'm a sorter on the primary and if my hub was to automate the primary what does that mean for me would I get put in a different area or just laid off there are jobs I believe machines could do better than people but I don't think they can automate positions such as loading
 

It will be fine

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Automation is good to a point I'll use UPS as an example I'm a sorter on the primary and if my hub was to automate the primary what does that mean for me would I get put in a different area or just laid off there are jobs I believe machines could do better than people but I don't think they can automate positions such as loading
Variable interactions in variable environments. Those are your protections from automation for a bit. The trades like plumbing where they walk into someone’s house and figure out how to fix god knows how many previous plumber’s handiwork. I think package delivery is safe for the rest of my working years. Too many different house and business setups to preprogram. But you never know, it only takes one break though for an AI capable of designing its replacement and the speed of advancement skyrockets.
 

floridays

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What specific country are you attempting to compare us with? NEWS FLASH- We have a congress, senate and a lot of other reasons why America would never turn into a pure "socialist" country.
"Democratic socialism is a political philosophy that advocates political democracy alongside social ownership of the means of production, with an emphasis on self-management and democratic management of economic institutions within a market or some form of decentralised planned socialist economy."
You're not very intelligent, you have no idea what you just said, or ramifications if a democratically elected government was formed based on these perimeters.
You earned an friend, rethink your proposal, and
ramifications. Please begin with implementation, Screw it, you aren't intelligent enough to understand what I'm asking.

I get tired of bustin peoples balls exposing their lack of thought. Let's see you grade your own paper smart guy.
 

floridays

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Variable interactions in variable environments. Those are your protections from automation for a bit. The trades like plumbing where they walk into someone’s house and figure out how to fix god knows how many previous plumber’s handiwork. I think package delivery is safe for the rest of my working years. Too many different house and business setups to preprogram. But you never know, it only takes one break though for an AI capable of designing its replacement and the speed of advancement skyrockets.
Thank you.
The way you laid it out gave me the answer to the final point delivery question for one segment (residential). Quite possibly it is the only thing of merit you've said here, and you weren't (and aren't) even aware.
 

watdaflock?

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You're not very intelligent, you have no idea what you just said, or ramifications if a democratically elected government was formed based on these perimeters.
You earned an friend, rethink your proposal, and
ramifications. Please begin with implementation, Screw it, you aren't intelligent enough to understand what I'm asking.

I get tired of bustin peoples balls exposing their lack of thought. Let's see you grade your own paper smart guy.
Weak rebuttal. You sound like Trump, a fat guy pretending to be a bully.

Again...democratic socialism is NOT like those small European Socialist countries. This is America, we have a congress, a senate, house of Rep's....etc. Face it, the closest we've came to a dictatorship, is under Trump. If you dare question or disagree with the cheeto-fuhrer, you're fired.
 

rickyb

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bernie would've succeeded in a peaceful "revolution" but everyone let the media and DNC rig it against him.

now we have violence
 

floridays

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apparently it is ppl are protesting around the world. UK, berlin, NZ, canada
Apparently I don't give one rats rear end what they do just as I don't give a rats rear end what you think. This is family, black, white, brown, paisley, you aren't family. Mind your business.
 

floridays

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EXCUSE ME I AM NORTH....AMERICAN
You aren't a US citizen, the Bill of Rights and the Constitution they are entailed in are no consequence to you until you become a defendant or respondent in a legal proceeding.
Do you want either? If not, mind your business.
 

rickyb

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You aren't a US citizen, the Bill of Rights and the Constitution they are entailed in are no consequence to you until you become a defendant or respondent in a legal proceeding.
Do you want either? If not, mind your business.
please...send me on your spacecraft to gitmo
 
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