MrFedEx
Engorged Member
What else does Express move, or Ground move for Express?
Big announcement coming in Jan
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What else does Express move, or Ground move for Express?
slowdriver
Well-Known Member
Wow, there's videos all over youtube of upset drivers for celadon, i've honestly never heard of them, but apperantly it's a pretty large company, crazy..
They're being heavily recruited by other carriers some with offers FXG line haul contractors would be hard pressed to match.
SmithBarney
Well-Known Member
I had a thought(dangerous I know) I could See 2Day going to one attempt and HAL, and Saver going directly to HAL.(HAL at ARTH locations Walgreens/Dollar Gen)
Purely on economics it would make a ton more sense then trying to transfer freight to Ground.
Sales has been selling Ground for years, they told us in person at a "meet and greet" right after they asked for sales leads..(yeah sure, go hop in your BMW and get your own) But sales has been successful in moving a ton a customers over to ground, For example ground covers all of FL in one day, so 2day/saver was an easy sell to ground.
Purely on economics it would make a ton more sense then trying to transfer freight to Ground.
Sales has been selling Ground for years, they told us in person at a "meet and greet" right after they asked for sales leads..(yeah sure, go hop in your BMW and get your own) But sales has been successful in moving a ton a customers over to ground, For example ground covers all of FL in one day, so 2day/saver was an easy sell to ground.
Route 66
Slapped Upside-da-Head Member
They still making couriers do that crap?
I used to turn in the lamest sales leads imaginable (Sadie the Seamstress who worked out of her attic, Uncle Ernie’s Used Tire Farm, Bob’s Gas ‘n Donuts, The UPS Store, etc).
Very shortly they stopped bugging me - and even urged me not to turn in any more leads.
dezguy
Well-Known Member
Sure do!They still making couriers do that crap?
I used to turn in the lamest sales leads imaginable (Sadie the Seamstress who worked out of her attic, Uncle Ernie’s Used Tire Farm, Bob’s Gas ‘n Donuts, The UPS Store, etc).
Very shortly they stopped bugging me - and even urged me not to turn in any more leads.
Had a manager, a few years back complain to me that I hadn't handed in a sales lead in years. Told them when sales starts selling Express, I'll start considering getting sales leads. Their response was "if sales sells ground and the customer likes the service, that means every once in a while they'll ship Express for important items."
This is what we've come to, folks. Expecting customers will ship with us sometimes.
MrFedEx
Engorged Member
They still making couriers do that crap?
I used to turn in the lamest sales leads imaginable (Sadie the Seamstress who worked out of her attic, Uncle Ernie’s Used Tire Farm, Bob’s Gas ‘n Donuts, The UPS Store, etc).
Very shortly they stopped bugging me - and even urged me not to turn in any more leads.
Yep. Bars, 7-11, and anyone else who would never ship Express. Bravo Zulu!
Fred's Myth
Nonhyphenated American
59 Dano
I just want to make friends!
They did a trial run of 2 attempts instead of 3 a couple of years ago. Despite the posturing and dramatics of a certain poster here, it didn't go poorly. The biggest concerns were in rural areas that were considered too far away from stations.
...and now we have single attempt ARTHs to drug stores and so on that are popping up in rural areas.
SmithBarney
Well-Known Member
Yup all 4 of the Dollar Generals in my PM area have been live for about 2 months, it's been slow, but it will pick up once folks learn about it, unfortunately no one knows about it. I wish they had stickers we could put on the door tags like the little round ones we had a while back "take control of your delivery" etc.
Cactus
Just telling it like it is
They were talking about that years ago. Now they’re finally doing something about it?
Margin compression will be the driver of whatever they do decide if anything come January, Trouble is there appears to be few options other than continue to try to move more volume over to Ground. If will no doubt create even greater challenges for contractors when it comes to meeting delivery deadlines and finding enough labor that's both productive enough and cheap enough to accomplish that feat.
Judging by the number of contracts coming up for sale on the broker sites the smart money seems to be not to wait around for this feces storm to hit the fan.
The fact of the matter is that you're never going to get a $40 an hour effort for a $15 an hour wage.
Fred's Myth
Nonhyphenated American
If what you say is accurate, then the contractors should realize that they now hold the upper hand, and should demand much more favorable terms and margins.
Perhaps they should organize.
To begin with contractors must agree to a nondisclosure agreement (NDA) whereby they are not permitted to discuss the details of their own contract with other contractors nor are they permitted to have counsel present during those so called and laughable contract "negotiations" .
Another example of just how captive and restrictive being an FXG "independent contractor " actually is in everyday life. And no matter how big of a scale you operate under in the end you simply get tired of it especially now given that the big haul many contractors believe they'll walk away with which is the only reason why many continue to put up with it becomes less of a certainty.
Gone fishin
Well-Known Member
I’ve actually had two big accounts get rate adjustments to switch from ground to express because of constant failures. Express is filling Amazon capacity to keep express density and numbers
MrFedEx
Engorged Member
Tell Dano.
snowcat66
Active Member
I remember back in the day (27 years ago) we didnt have Expsvr. just p1, sos and p2 and it seemed plenty then. makes since to move 3 days to ground. I'm sure it will be a, sorry Express doesn't offer 3 days any longer but ground has a new service you may be interested in
