Bill Barr

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Read the report.

Mueller was like:

‘We opened the door, the President’s pants were down, there was a porn video playing on a desk computer, there was a box of tissues and lotion on the desk, and there was an indeterminate mucous-like substance on the floor in front of said computer, but we didn’t actually see the President jerking off, soooo...’

Hmm , a psychiatrist could pay off his mortgage analyzing you.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
It’s what the report says. Which part do you think is inaccurate?
The only thing that's keeping Trump in the oval office is the economy. It appears that there are those who don't care that he tried to fire Mueller in order to shut down the investigation as long as they're making money. Nixon did the very same thing and the only difference between Nixon and Trump is the strength of the economy which during Nixon's time in office was struggling in the aftermath of the Arab oil embargo, inflation was heating up as well as the beginning of the deindustrialization of the nation.
Mueller did the right thing. He knew that Barr was the next Robert Bork appointed to get Trump off the hook so he's handing the matter back to Congress to carry the matter forward reminding it of it's constitutional duty as well as the fact that Trump can be indicted after he leaves office.
 

bbsam

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Was the Report really that damning on the collusion end, though? The hard left media have all seen what is or is not there in that regard and have mostly run on over to screaming about the obstruction issues.
I think it was and so do conservatives. Remember when all this was leaking out and the conservative chorus was “collusion isn’t a crime”?

Mueller saw the same thing and agreed. What we find out is that the laws covering such things are stunningly lax.
 

It will be fine

Well-Known Member
I think it was and so do conservatives. Remember when all this was leaking out and the conservative chorus was “collusion isn’t a crime”?

Mueller saw the same thing and agreed. What we find out is that the laws covering such things are stunningly lax.
In the past a candidate receiving help from a foreign government would see that as a bad thing and report everything to the authorities. Trump has no such moral compass.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
Basically, Trump skated on the collusion, which isn’t even a real word or a legal term, so that’s almost irrelevant.

On obstruction, the report is more nuanced, but it boils down to:

‘By definition, we can’t indict this fk, if we could, we would...we thought about subpoenas but the WHC would tie that up six ways till Sunday, and by the time it all got resolved, the next Presidential election would be over, but we feel like we got what we needed with alternate testimony (prez, by all accounts, will lie to us anyway) and we need to wrap this up’.

Lmao

Read the report.
You paraphrase/slant/interpret/translate the report like this, and then complain about the Barr redactions???

Grow up.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
I think it was and so do conservatives. Remember when all this was leaking out and the conservative chorus was “collusion isn’t a crime”?

Mueller saw the same thing and agreed. What we find out is that the laws covering such things are stunningly lax.
Remember when you were saying Trump was dead meat???
 

Meat

Well-Known Member
It’s what the report says. Which part do you think is inaccurate?

We live in a black-and-white world, lamentably - gone are the days of subtlety and nuance.

When I was growing up the Supremes used to sing about their boyfriends loving “buttered popcorn” - I still have the 45 I bought for $1.99 the week of release.

Now, unless people are hit over the head with “on the nose” thematic content, they can’t formulate an original opinion, and have to proffer some trite version of the party line.

The Mueller report didn’t explicitly state “Trump committed several acts of obstruction. Congress must act now,” so most Americans don’t have the intellectual capacity to properly interpret the report’s significance.

An incredibly low standard has been set for what is considered acceptable presidential conduct - sad, sad, sad.
 

oldngray

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bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
The report said that a President may be indictable after he leaves office. Any President. Not just Trump. It was a point of law that is still subject to judicial interpretation. Nothing to do with any evidence in the report.
The report also made clear that the evidence did not support exoneration.
 

bbsam

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Staff member
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If Mueller’s office were able to conclude that Trump had not committed obstruction, “we would so state.”

“...we were unable to reach that judgment.”

I think democrats are fine with the Mueller report. I think republicans are ignoring what it says.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
I think it was and so do conservatives. Remember when all this was leaking out and the conservative chorus was “collusion isn’t a crime”?

Mueller saw the same thing and agreed. What we find out is that the laws covering such things are stunningly lax.

the other part of what conservatives said is conspiracy to collude is a crime. no conspiracy to collude. As Mueller said there was no collusion despite multiple opportunties offered the trump team to do so.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
In the past a candidate receiving help from a foreign government would see that as a bad thing and report everything to the authorities. Trump has no such moral compass.

did Hillary see that the helps she received from a foreign government as a bad thing? inquiring minds want to know?
 
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