Bill Barr

It will be fine

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Nope. You claim legal examples were evidence of guilt.
So, would say there’s no evidence R. Kelly sexually assaulted young girls? He was found not guilty, it wasn’t proven beyond all reasonable doubt. There is also video of him committing crimes. I’d say that’s evidence of a crime.
 

newfie

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So, would say there’s no evidence R. Kelly sexually assaulted young girls? He was found not guilty, it wasn’t proven beyond all reasonable doubt. There is also video of him committing crimes. I’d say that’s evidence of a crime.

I didn't realize mueller was investigating R. Kelly. this is now getting interesting.
 

1989

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The purpose was to determine how the Russians meddled in our election. There were dozens of indictments on that front. There is also plenty of evidence that the Trump campaign colluded with Russians, but it may not have been illegal. There’s plenty of evidence Trump obstructed justice but Mueller deferred judgement to congress as he believed a sitting president can’t be indicted. Just because Trump currently has immunity from charges doesn’t exonerate him.
How did the Russians meddle in the election?
 

bbsam

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Staff member
i seem to remember the buzz feeds and Wapo's and NY Times getting a lot of this wrong. Do you read any credible news sources or just the ones that provide you with the desired spin?
Well what do you believe the actual quotes from the Mueller report say? Not a whole lot of spin to do there.

Maybe this is where you launch into the “12 angry Democrats conspiracy theory.
 

bacha29

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The report said that a President may be indictable after he leaves office. Any President. Not just Trump. It was a point of law that is still subject to judicial interpretation. Nothing to do with any evidence in the report.
" Any president'? Ok. So who do want to begin with? Jimmy Carter?
 

bbsam

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Staff member
I think the AG has been very cooperative. legally he could have told them to pound sand
I agree. Most that I’ve heard said the report was far less redacted than expected. I do think some not so private citizens may have had their significant culpability obscured.

That’s the problem with having family members in the administration. They are fair targets.
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
How did the Russians meddle in the election?

Are you kidding? It's been PROVEN they attempted to meddle in all 50 states, and there's a plethora (look it up) of fake news examples directly from Russia that specifically targeted states where it was a close race between Trump and Clinton.

Russians have been indicted by a grand jury, but they're in Russia, so I don't think they'll be coming here to see Disneyland.
 

newfie

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Well what do you believe the actual quotes from the Mueller report say? Not a whole lot of spin to do there.

Maybe this is where you launch into the “12 angry Democrats conspiracy theory.

I'm glad you asked i think its quite clear. If Mueller could have cemented his legacy in history by taking down the president I'm sure he would have.

Mueller said I couldnt in good conscience charge him with anything . I cant charge him because he asked questions about what he could or could not do. that's what advisors are there for to tell me where the line is. His advisors told him where the line was that he could not cross.
Obama did the same thing we just weren't spying on him when he did it. Bush had too much character to do that too Obama.

then mueller said my integrity is beyond reproach , I will not sell it out to score political points,

however here is everything I could find , little as it is and if one of you alley cats with no morals wants to take it and try to fabricate something feel free.

well the alley cats have it now and they have no integrity to defend.
 
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newfie

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Lol. If the evidence doesn’t support an indictment of Trump when he leaves office, I find it hard to believe Obama has anything to fear.

time will tell , we still have to investigate the spying on a presidential campaign and the perjury that occurred in the FISA process. and then of course when that plays out then the next question becomes how much did the president know.

IG report in june will tell us a lot
 

oldngray

nowhere special
Are you kidding? It's been PROVEN they attempted to meddle in all 50 states, and there's a plethora (look it up) of fake news examples directly from Russia that specifically targeted states where it was a close race between Trump and Clinton.

Russians have been indicted by a grand jury, but they're in Russia, so I don't think they'll be coming here to see Disneyland.

Except for the Russians who decided to fight it and Mueller wasn't ready to go to court after all. Or the Russian companies that didn't even exist at the time. It did prove most of the indictments were political stunts.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
Are you kidding? It's been PROVEN they attempted to meddle in all 50 states, and there's a plethora (look it up) of fake news examples directly from Russia that specifically targeted states where it was a close race between Trump and Clinton.

Russians have been indicted by a grand jury, but they're in Russia, so I don't think they'll be coming here to see Disneyland.
Those indictments were all for show. Mueller and every legal expert knew that those Russians will never stand trial. However Mueller did stall when one Russian Company hired US lawyers to represent them. His office claimed that they weren't ready. What B.S..
 

newfie

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Are you kidding? It's been PROVEN they attempted to meddle in all 50 states, and there's a plethora (look it up) of fake news examples directly from Russia that specifically targeted states where it was a close race between Trump and Clinton.

Russians have been indicted by a grand jury, but they're in Russia, so I don't think they'll be coming here to see Disneyland.


suddenly you guys remember there were Russians on facebook
 

oldngray

nowhere special
time will tell , we still have to investigate the spying on a presidential campaign and the perjury that occurred in the FISA process. and then of course when that plays out then the next question becomes how much did the president know.

IG report in june will tell us a lot

Word is Trump will start declassifying FISA's after the IG report is released.
 
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