oldngray
nowhere special
Those armed people rushed to defend Bundy AFTER the BLM sent in its stormtroopers.
BLM vs Bundy
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Those armed people rushed to defend Bundy AFTER the BLM sent in its stormtroopers.
You just cant help but attempt to justify this old racist can you? Nothing that was done, was done without a COURT ORDER, something you want to ignore.
Had bundy simply "removed" his cattle when he was told on his own, this episode never would have occured.
Unfortunately for bundy, he believes he is above the law and "entitled" to freegraze.
Wait a minute, arent you one of those types that hates "entitlements" from the government?
TOS.
oldngray
nowhere special
You are the one who is racist and can't post anything without mentioning race. Bundy's comments on race have absolutely no bearing on his situation vs BLM regardless of how much you try to spin it. This thread is BLM vs Bundy, not racism vs Bundy.
I see you cant face facts. You want to repeat the "spin" of the Bunday saga, but wont address or agree that BLM was acting upon a set of court orders.
The BLM has done everything by the book. Its bundy who wants to defy the law and not the BLM.
You can ignore the facts and side with the racist old man in the desert, but in a broader view, its sort of like defending yourself.
TOS.
Best article I've read on the mess. The entire article is not too long, but explains quite a bit:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/cliven-bundy-homestead-act-history
Fair use excerpt:
Students of the history of the American West have long known that the strong, rugged individualists that populate our movies, TV shows, and myths always depended on government – to give them ownership of their farms and ranches, to subsidize private corporations like railroads for access to markets, for federal troops for protection from Indians, and federally funded dams and canals for irrigating their fields and sustaining their livestock and towns.
The idea that Bundy’s pioneer ancestors somehow made their fortunes (“built that”) without any help, before the invention of government assistance, the Bureau of Land Management or federal regulations, is preposterous.
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The Homestead Act was one of the most far-reaching and important pieces of legislation ever enacted in the United States. It was also undeniably a massive (and successful) social welfare program. It gave an applicant ownership – at no cost! – of farmland made up of 160 acres of undeveloped federal land. The land wasn’t what some on the libertarian right would archly call a “handout”: a would-be homesteader was required to file an application, improve the land by building fences and structures, and, after five years’ residency and toil, file for a permanent deed of title. But it was a government program designed both to settle the West with farmers and ranchers and to dispose of the public lands. “Winners” were undoubtably picked.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/cliven-bundy-homestead-act-history
Fair use excerpt:
Students of the history of the American West have long known that the strong, rugged individualists that populate our movies, TV shows, and myths always depended on government – to give them ownership of their farms and ranches, to subsidize private corporations like railroads for access to markets, for federal troops for protection from Indians, and federally funded dams and canals for irrigating their fields and sustaining their livestock and towns.
The idea that Bundy’s pioneer ancestors somehow made their fortunes (“built that”) without any help, before the invention of government assistance, the Bureau of Land Management or federal regulations, is preposterous.
...
The Homestead Act was one of the most far-reaching and important pieces of legislation ever enacted in the United States. It was also undeniably a massive (and successful) social welfare program. It gave an applicant ownership – at no cost! – of farmland made up of 160 acres of undeveloped federal land. The land wasn’t what some on the libertarian right would archly call a “handout”: a would-be homesteader was required to file an application, improve the land by building fences and structures, and, after five years’ residency and toil, file for a permanent deed of title. But it was a government program designed both to settle the West with farmers and ranchers and to dispose of the public lands. “Winners” were undoubtably picked.
realbrown1
Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
How about this news story as proof that the BLM has chased away every neighbor near Mr. Bundy. Mr. Bundy is the last rancher left standing.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...-the-west-why-more-bundy-standoffs-are-coming
This is nothing more than more rhetoric without fact. Simply , an opinion from another right wing kook set out to distort facts.
Nothing in the story including the many court orders against bundy, and rather, continues a false narrative about the BLMS actions.
You see, its easier to pray on your ignorance than it is to challenge your intelligence.
Stories like these are designed to be consumed by those most likely to avoid facts.
TOS.
realbrown1
Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
No wonder you have the TROLL lable.
Don't let those pesky facts get in the way of your ideology.
Nimnim
The Nim
More, while amusing, this really isn't related to the topic at hand.
Nimnim
The Nim
Until you can show me a picture of Mrs. Obama on her knees in a field in Nevada chewing cud, and yes I laughed at that image, it's not going to relate.
Babagounj
Strength through joy
Smoking BLM Gun – Public Records – Harry Reid Owns 93 Acres Next to Bundy Ranch
While Senator Harry Reid professes that he is running the Bundy cattle off of public land because it’s the right thing to do, evidence indicates that Dirty Harry might have a personal interest in seeing that the Bundy’s join the other 52 ranchers they’ve run out of business.
Parcels held by an entity, Reid Bunkerville, LLC, which is partially owned by the Nevada Senator are in close proximity to the Bundy ranch.
The parcels appear to be in the path of future development, which may even involve a freeway interchange and loop, all west of Bunkerville in the same general area as those “trespass cattle.”
http://gopthedailydose.com/2014/05/...harry-reid-owns-93-acres-next-to-bundy-ranch/
While Senator Harry Reid professes that he is running the Bundy cattle off of public land because it’s the right thing to do, evidence indicates that Dirty Harry might have a personal interest in seeing that the Bundy’s join the other 52 ranchers they’ve run out of business.
Parcels held by an entity, Reid Bunkerville, LLC, which is partially owned by the Nevada Senator are in close proximity to the Bundy ranch.
The parcels appear to be in the path of future development, which may even involve a freeway interchange and loop, all west of Bunkerville in the same general area as those “trespass cattle.”
http://gopthedailydose.com/2014/05/...harry-reid-owns-93-acres-next-to-bundy-ranch/
realbrown1
Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
Only 93 acres?
