Borrowed from another hub

[Sporhwhore]

Management.... stewie looking into it

 

[Integrity]

Management.... stewie looking into it

I would wait for information from your Steward to find out the reason for the change and the point of view regarding the reason from the Union side.

 

[burrheadd]

Management.... stewie looking into it

Time to get a full time job

 

[PT Car Washer]

No was just told that air drivers are no longer allowed to deliver ground.... problem bein we have almost everybody on 9.5 list so it’s not like they can cut routes and load everybody up because that’s triple time then

The company has cut off all air drivers from delivering ground at my building also. Even if it means letting a route sit for the day. My local does not allow PT ground drivers. I doubt if this decision was made at your building level. Much easier to let an experienced air driver run a route than training some new guy for the day.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Time to get a full time job

More work for less pay. No thanks.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

I am an air driver at a relatively small hub up north. We are always short staffed have been for years so when we are out of RPCD drivers and cover drivers they always use us ( there’s 3 of us) as third string quarterbacks per say this has been going on for 10 years ... that all ended a few weeks ago and now they brought in other part time non air drivers from a neighboring facility. My question is do I have a legitimate grievance for them using drivers that don’t even work in my hub and if not then wtf lol! I’m standing to lose tens of thousands of dollars this year if they are allowed to do that

Your grievance would be for "past practice" and "maintenance of standards."


What probably happened was.... someone noticed they were paying you top (pkg) rate as an air driver and ended it.

The company should only use PT air drivers to deliver ground in emergency's or to avoid supervisors working.

The company should have put on more full-time drivers.

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

Actually it says if an air driver delivers ground he receives top ground driver rate. So when did the Teamsters allow PT ground drivers?

Actually...

 

[11.19igrad]

Took the job for benefits wanted guaranteed hours part time relief drivers are not guaranteed anything at my hub

so u only want the benefits. dont want to drive full time, but do want to drive ground so u can make tens of more thousands?

what would u normally be doing to earn these tens of thousands you are afraid of losing?

 

[11.19igrad]

Moral of the story is if the company is allowed to bring in drivers from other buildings when they have people in their own building that have been doing the job we are in deep .... where does it end will they be having other centers covering late pick ups and give everybody 40 hours? The obvious answer is our building needs To hire more drivers but I think we are on a hiring freeze right now and what they are doing is complete bull crap

everything on earth except
my cat and ... actually

earth
is
good

because cats and pasta

and booze

i work overnight

dont be mad

live a lil hon

 

[Sporhwhore]

Point being these guys that they are bringing in are not even employed in my building how can that be right?

 

[PT Car Washer]

Point being these guys that they are bringing in are not even employed in my building how can that be right?

Are they covered under the same Local? We have loaned out and borrowed drivers but we were all under the same Local.

 

[542thruNthru]

Point being these guys that they are bringing in are not even employed in my building how can that be right?

Driver's are loaned out all the time to other buildings.

What's upsetting you really is that you want to be a PT air driver and make top rate doing the easy stuff with none of the real pressures of a real route driver.

You have 20 years seniority so I'm sure you had ample opportunities to become a FT driver and make top rate. Now the company has decided to stop violating Article 40 so you've lost your gravy train. My suggestion to you is go FT driving and you want have these issues.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Driver's are loaned out all the time to other buildings.

What's upsetting you really is that you want to be a PT air driver and make top rate doing the easy stuff with none of the real pressures of a real route driver.

You have 20 years seniority so I'm sure you had ample opportunities to become a FT driver and make top rate. Now the company has decided to stop violating Article 40 so you've lost your gravy train. My suggestion to you is go FT driving and you want have these issues.

Eliminate Art 40 and the language that allows PT ground drivers in the next contract and you won't have these issues.

 

[542thruNthru]

Eliminate Art 40 and the language that allows PT ground drivers in the next contract and you won't have these issues.

I'm %10,000 for that.

 

[burrheadd]

Point being these guys that they are bringing in are not even employed in my building how can that be right?

You should probably move along
You’ve got @11.19igrad clowning you
and he doesent even know how to operate a handbrake

 

[Brown Wing]

You're an air driver working out of classification. They have every right to use drivers from neighboring centers over you to avoid paying what the contract defines as a penalty.

What you and @PT Car Washer have lived is a pipe dream that's going by the wayside.

I just view air driving as the one of the best PT jobs out there. Hell, at top rate where I am I could live on those 16 hours a week.

 

[Sporhwhore]

Some of my criticism is deserved but I just can’t believe building seniority doesn’t prevail... thank for the input

 

[WTFm8]

Go the other route on this, file a grievance to make sure they’re paying the drivers from other centers the mileage difference.

Here if they ask a lower driver to work at another center they are to pay mileage difference.

If they need to take a package car, they report to their domicile building then clock in and drive to the center, load up, deliver, then head back to send any pickups/sendagains, then back do domicile all on the clock.

 

[eats packages]

At one point that borrowed nearly-brand-new 22.4 drivers for work in other centers but that practice quickly stopped for reasons we can all surmise but never say out loud.
They went back and are using air drivers "voluntarily" to fill shortages. They still never do actual air runs.
I declined air driving for this very reason. They need to butt cheek up and get more FT people in the roster and promote last year's 22.4s to regular drivers.

 

[clean hairy]

im just curious... why in 20 years did you not become a rpcd?

Because no one "showed" or "taught" him how to!