Borrowed from another hub

[11.19igrad]

Because no one "showed" or "taught" him how to!

u hit the nail on the head man. dude, wow. pat yourself on the back bro

 

[PT Car Washer]

You're an air driver working out of classification. They have every right to use drivers from neighboring centers over you to avoid paying what the contract defines as a penalty.

What you and @PT Car Washer have lived is a pipe dream that's going by the wayside.

I just view air driving as the one of the best PT jobs out there. Hell, at top rate where I am I could live on those 16 hours a week.

You could be right. At least for now. Wait and see what happens when driver vacations kick in and the PT drivers from the other Centers are needed in their building. Won't be able to EC an entire route because of "weather".

 

[eats packages]

Won't be able to EC an entire route because of "weather".

Never say never.

 

[UPSER1987]

I am an air driver at a relatively small hub up north. We are always short staffed have been for years so when we are out of RPCD drivers and cover drivers they always use us ( there’s 3 of us) as third string quarterbacks per say this has been going on for 10 years ... that all ended a few weeks ago and now they brought in other part time non air drivers from a neighboring facility. My question is do I have a legitimate grievance for them using drivers that don’t even work in my hub and if not then wtf lol! I’m standing to lose tens of thousands of dollars this year if they are allowed to do that

Go FT driving. Problem solved.

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

Actually it says if an air driver delivers ground he receives top ground driver rate. So when did the Teamsters allow PT ground drivers?

Can you quote that exact language?

 

[Jkloc420]

Article 40 trumps everything actually and I believe it says air driver's can not deliver ground.

Without knowing what classification this PT driver is I don't think we can give a accurate answer. Something tells me he's a PT cover driver of sorts.

Part timer

 

[PT Car Washer]

Can you quote that exact language?

What matters?

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

What matters?

I'm just curious if you know what it actually says. That's all.

 

[PT Car Washer]

I'm just curious if you know what it actually says. That's all.

Read Art 40. It's all in there.

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

Read Art 40. It's all in there.

I'm aware. But I'd like you to tell me exact language.

 

[PT Car Washer]

I'm aware. But I'd like you to tell me exact language.

Perhaps a remedial reading class would be helpful.

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

Perhaps a remedial reading class would be helpful.

If that's what you need I agree. I would just like you to actually quote the language you are referencing. Not trying to pick a fight with you. I just don think you know what it actually says.

 

[Brown Wing]

If that's what you need I agree. I would just like you to actually quote the language you are referencing. Not trying to pick a fight with you. I just don think you know what it actually says.

Art 40 section 7, 3rd paragraph on page 154 of the master. Why quote it when you can read it yourself?

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

Art 40 section 7, 3rd paragraph on page 154 of the master. Why quote it when you can read it yourself?

Exactly- if you actually read it nowhere does it discuss the delivery of packages. Which is why I asked him to quote the language he was referring to.

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

Either way, UPS will continue to do as it pleases.

 

[Brown Wing]

Exactly- if you actually read it nowhere does it discuss the delivery of packages. Which is why I asked him to quote the language he was referring to.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Looks like it discusses the delivery of non air packages to me.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Exactly- if you actually read it nowhere does it discuss the delivery of packages. Which is why I asked him to quote the language he was referring to.

(7) Air drivers may, on an exception basis, be used to make service on packages which are not air packages.

Any violation of Section 1(a) (7), shall obligate the Employer to pay the Air Driver involved the difference between his/her rate of pay and the top regular package car driver wage rate existing at that building. Grievances concerning violation or abuse of this shall be referred directly to the National Air Committee.


If this is the language you are referring to.... that is talking about pick-up of non-air pkgs.

But, it's all ready been determined through the grievance procedure that delivery of ground pkgs by air drivers

in an emergency situation or in lieu of supervisors working is acceptable, with the appropriate rate of pay.


Big Union Guys.... learn about these things at the buffet.





-Bug-

 

[PT Car Washer]

(7) Air drivers may, on an exception basis, be used to make service on packages which are not air packages.

Any violation of Section 1(a) (7), shall obligate the Employer to pay the Air Driver involved the difference between his/her rate of pay and the top regular package car driver wage rate existing at that building. Grievances concerning violation or abuse of this shall be referred directly to the National Air Committee.


If this is the language you are referring to.... that is talking about pick-up of non-air pkgs.

But, it's all ready been determined through the grievance procedure that delivery of ground pkgs by air drivers

in an emergency situation or in lieu of supervisors working is acceptable, with the appropriate rate of pay.


Big Union Guys.... learn about these things at the buffet.





-Bug-

This has been the accepted practice for over 25 years. At least in my Local.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

This has been the accepted practice for over 25 years. At least in my Local.

I get it.

Things might change in your area.