Cash for Clunkers...

[scratch]

Careful, Scratch. The Libs will now label you a Nazi and anti-American. You will probably be reported to the White House snitch line, and go on Obamas enemy list.

I'm sure I am already on a lot of their lists. Especially after some of the emails I have already sent them, I don't think they understand the concept of Freedom of Speech.

I got this email warning about a Cash for Clunkers website. Supposedly if you accept the terms of accessing this site, (which I will not list), the government considers that YOUR COMPUTER IS THEIR EQUIPMENT, so they and foreign governments have access to everything on your hard drive.

[video=youtube;pM30nqfasyU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM30nqfasyU[/video]

 

[brett636]

To anyone who cares, I just learned the Syclone has in fact been saved. Apparently the dealer had not pushed the paperwork through yet and someone paid them the $4500 to save it from the crusher. Considering they only produced those for one year and made less than 3000 its best to save as many as possible.

http://www.syty.net/forums/showthread.php?t=70565&page=9

 

[The Other Side]

Its a typical program that liberals dream up. It will waste a lot of tax dollars and not make any difference. I have never seen the government run any kind of program well. It makes me mad as a taxpayer to watch my money being wasted like this. This was originally designed to help the domestic car industry, but 60% of the new cars purchased are from foreign manufacturers.

Nothing surprising than a "moderator" on this board spreading false numbers they hear on FAUX news..

The 80% percent number came from where??? Tell us.

In fact, a little play on words by your spin doctors on the right wing kool aid shows..

The majority of car sales to foriegn manufactures is 36% not 80% like you claim, and of that 73% were made in the USA, yes thats right, here in the good old USA...HO RAH!

The program is a huge success for both the auto industry as a whole from the porter who washes the cars to the manufactures.

The biggest winner is the CONSUMER, who recieves at least 4500 dollars BACK OF THEIR OWN MONEY.

Dealers ran out of inventory, states collected huge tax dollars and licensing fees, dealers DIDNT have to pay the huge flooring costs of having the cars on the showroom floor for another month...and so on and so on...

But you kool aid kooks just dont get it..

I welcome the president of the United States giving me back some of my tax dollars I paid into the system before it ends up in another wall street billionaires savings account.

Funny how when President BUSHED gave billions to AIG (87 billion in fact) and other financial criminals you all praised his mighty leadership.

But now, President Obama gives 1 billion to regular americans and you call him stupid? He furthers that by adding another 2 billion for regular americans and you still cry socialist?

Give us a break, if the republicans can find 87 billion for AIG, they can find 3 billion for the regular hard working average american citizen.

Get over it.

OBAMA in 2012.

 

[moreluck]

Obama sucketh !!

 

[1989]

Nothing surprising than a "moderator" on this board spreading false numbers they hear on FAUX news..

The 80% percent number came from where??? Tell us.

In fact, a little play on words by your spin doctors on the right wing kool aid shows..

The majority of car sales to foriegn manufactures is 36% not 80% like you claim, and of that 73% were made in the USA, yes thats right, here in the good old USA...HO RAH!

I don't know about your numbers, but this smells of a bailout on top of a bailout.

The program is a huge success for both the auto industry as a whole from the porter who washes the cars to the manufactures.

The biggest winner is the CONSUMER, who recieves at least 4500 dollars BACK OF THEIR OWN MONEY.

Dealers ran out of inventory, states collected huge tax dollars and licensing fees, dealers DIDNT have to pay the huge flooring costs of having the cars on the showroom floor for another month...and so on and so on...

But you kool aid kooks just dont get it..

I welcome the president of the United States giving me back some of my tax dollars I paid into the system before it ends up in another wall street billionaires savings account.

Funny how when President BUSHED gave billions to AIG (87 billion in fact) and other financial criminals you all praised his mighty leadership.

I never saw any praising going on.

But now, President Obama gives 1 billion to regular americans and you call him stupid? He furthers that by adding another 2 billion for regular americans and you still cry socialist?

Who says "regular americans" took advantage of this and not the well off?

Give us a break, if the republicans can find 87 billion for AIG, they can find 3 billion for the regular hard working average american citizen.

"Republicans" were not very happy about it.

Get over it.

OBAMA in 2012.

And there is the market at which he demonized to an artificial low. Which I think he did to say "See what I inherited, it's not my fault" Always pointing fingers to make himself look better. It scared many people out at the lows. What a great president. Time to stop finger pointing. Look out below the market will tank again today.

 

[av8torntn]

We have subsidized cheap fuel for too long in the form of tax breaks for oil companies, cheap credit, and a bloated military. Its time to start paying as we go.

Allowing someone to keep the money they earn is not a subsidy. I agree let's start paying as we go and kill these government welfare programs. We can then lower taxes and stop the punishment of those that are efficient enough to become wealthy. We all benefit from a company large enough to find oil and bring it to the market in the form of gasoline.

 

[wkmac]

Vandal Economics


Bastiat's "Broken Window" proven again.

 

[The Other Side]

And there is the market at which he demonized to an artificial low. Which I think he did to say "See what I inherited, it's not my fault" Always pointing fingers to make himself look better. It scared many people out at the lows. What a great president. Time to stop finger pointing. Look out below the market will tank again today.

I realize its hard to swallow the truth when "garbage" has been shoved in first. But the reality of the cash for clunkers program was a huge success for everyone who took advantage of the trade in.

I said on this board long ago that giving cash to the big three was a mistake and that same money should be given to the AMERICAN TAXPAYERS in order to stimulate the auto industry.

Finally, that has been done, and it works.

Its unfortunate that the right wing media and the determine efforts of FAUX news to confuse the issues and use exageration to polute the minds of those who follow the program.

In a period of deep recession, the President has made the RIGHT move to help the american taxpayers directly.

George W. Bush left this country in a deep sinking hole and it going to take alot of money to turn it around. The rest of the world is doing similiar things and countries are also turning around. Obama TOLD the country before he took office after many briefings by the BUSHED administration, that the economy would GET ALOT WORSE BEFORE IT GOT BETTER and he was on the money. You have to accept the reality of the mess that GW BUSHED left this country with. We are paying for his mistakes and the mistakes of the republican led congress. The failures of BUSHED and the republican leadership in congress will be felt for years to come.

President Obama made it clear, before he ever took office, Your beloved BUSHED left 1.7 trillion dollars of unpaid debt on his desk. Now he's dealing with it before this country heads into a depression.

Congrats to Obama for his handling and turning around of this country.

Thank you Mr. President.

 

[over9five]

Why did The Other Side call Scratch a kook????

 

[wkmac]

Why did The Other Side call Scratch a kook????

Considering the source, can you tell me how that is a bad thing?


And from the context I don't think Scratch is alone either!

It's good to have friends.

 

[brett636]

So it appears dealers are taking it on the chin for this program. Many dealers have yet to be reimbursed for the "clunkers" they have taken in, causing some dealerships to halt participation in the program. I can't blame them, because they are fronting the money to the customer for these rebates with the hope the government pays them. When the government fails, as usual, to live up to their part of the deal that dealer is out of a lot of money with a bunch of junk cars to get rid of.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/busine...o-see-most-cash-for-clunkers-payments/1027867

 

[toonertoo]

Why did The Other Side call Scratch a kook????

Because he dared to voice his opinion. I guess she thinks that we are not allowed.

 

[tieguy]

I wonder if the kennedys will soon be trying to claim a 3500 credit for ted kennedys body.

 

[Babagounj]

Coming later this fall............cash for clunkers the home edition.
Everyone can turn in your old iceboxes for a new one .

 

[klein]

I may have heard wrong... but sounded to me as of Monday Aug 24th, is this program over with ?

 

[diesel96]

So it appears dealers are taking it on the chin for this program. Many dealers have yet to be reimbursed for the "clunkers" they have taken in, causing some dealerships to halt participation in the program. I can't blame them, because they are fronting the money to the customer for these rebates with the hope the government pays them. When the government fails, as usual, to live up to their part of the deal that dealer is out of a lot of money with a bunch of junk cars to get rid of.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/busine...o-see-most-cash-for-clunkers-payments/1027867

The same reason why it takes six to eight weeks to recieve a rebate check for my newly purchased Sprint phone and my son's contact lenses. The dealers paperwork must be accurate and certain requirements must be met and checked thuroughly. Again another example of you hoping and praying anything this President attempts, leads to failure.

I realize its hard to swallow the truth when "garbage" has been shoved in first. But the reality of the cash for clunkers program was a huge success for everyone who took advantage of the trade in.

I said on this board long ago that giving cash to the big three was a mistake and that same money should be given to the AMERICAN TAXPAYERS in order to stimulate the auto industry.

Finally, that has been done, and it works.

Its unfortunate that the right wing media and the determine efforts of FAUX news to confuse the issues and use exageration to polute the minds of those who follow the program.

In a period of deep recession, the President has made the RIGHT move to help the american taxpayers directly.

George W. Bush left this country in a deep sinking hole and it going to take alot of money to turn it around. The rest of the world is doing similiar things and countries are also turning around. Obama TOLD the country before he took office after many briefings by the BUSHED administration, that the economy would GET ALOT WORSE BEFORE IT GOT BETTER and he was on the money. You have to accept the reality of the mess that GW BUSHED left this country with. We are paying for his mistakes and the mistakes of the republican led congress. The failures of BUSHED and the republican leadership in congress will be felt for years to come.

President Obama made it clear, before he ever took office, Your beloved BUSHED left 1.7 trillion dollars of unpaid debt on his desk. Now he's dealing with it before this country heads into a depression.

Congrats to Obama for his handling and turning around of this country.

Thank you Mr. President.

Very well said TOS....and I dare say, not much rebuttle except for something about kooks....

 

[brett636]

The same reason why it takes six to eight weeks to recieve a rebate check for my newly purchased Sprint phone and my son's contact lenses. The dealers paperwork must be accurate and certain requirements must be met and checked thuroughly. Again another example of you hoping and praying anything this President attempts, leads to failure.

They are supposed to be paid within 10 days. As of Friday the government owes New Mexico car dealers around $3.6 million and has sent 3 checks to that state worth $14,000.

I'm surprised being such a staunch liberal/democrat that you would support this program. Are you ok with used car prices going up causing poor families difficulties in affording a cheap replacement car. I thought you were all for the little guy, and not a fan of corporate welfare?

I guess the only good to come of this program is the large number of cheap, repossessed economy cars that will be at the auto auctions in the next 6 months to a year. People who had these older vehicles owned them for a reason. They could not afford a new car, but since the government waved that rebate money in their faces they just could not resist and now they are stuck with a new car payment along with the higher insurance premiums that go with it.

 

[1989]

I realize its hard to swallow the truth when "garbage" has been shoved in first. But the reality of the cash for clunkers program was a huge success for everyone who took advantage of the trade in.

I agree, I liked the idea of CFC.

I said on this board long ago that giving cash to the big three was a mistake and that same money should be given to the AMERICAN TAXPAYERS in order to stimulate the auto industry.

Finally, that has been done, and it works.

I don't think many in the middle class participated. I would hope nobody unemployed or on the brink of foreclosure did.

Its unfortunate that the right wing media and the determine efforts of FAUX news to confuse the issues and use exageration to polute the minds of those who follow the program.

there you go, blindly following your leader just because he is a democrat.

In a period of deep recession, the President has made the RIGHT move to help the american taxpayers directly.

What was the right move? are you still talking about CFC? I am an American taxpayer, what did I get help with? What did you get help with?

George W. Bush left this country in a deep sinking hole and it going to take alot of money to turn it around. The rest of the world is doing similiar things and countries are also turning around. Obama TOLD the country before he took office after many briefings by the BUSHED administration, that the economy would GET ALOT WORSE BEFORE IT GOT BETTER and he was on the money.

But did he really have to beat down confidence back in Jan/Feb/March? He must have did that for political reasons. Pushing a lower bottom to say, see where we were back in March and where we are now.

You have to accept the reality of the mess that GW BUSHED left this country with. We are paying for his mistakes and the mistakes of the republican led congress. The failures of BUSHED and the republican leadership in congress will be felt for years to come.

Democrates have much blame on their sholders.

President Obama made it clear, before he ever took office, Your beloved BUSHED left 1.7 trillion dollars of unpaid debt on his desk. Now he's dealing with it before this country heads into a depression.

Dealing with debt implies that it is being paid down. Not looking for the credit cards and pushing them over the limit.

Congrats to Obama for his handling and turning around of this country.

Where are the jobs?

Thank you Mr. President.

 

[Babagounj]

I may have heard wrong... but sounded to me as of Monday Aug 24th, is this program over with ?

Ya, then part of the program is over.

Coming this fall.....the home edition is for appliances; big box items.

Kind a funny, if everyone bought a tiny car then how would they carry the new stove home ?

 

[tieguy]

Very well said TOS....and I dare say, not much rebuttle except for something about kooks....

It would seem to be a waste of time to rebut the delusional rantings of the mentally disturbed.

what is worrisome is your supporting those rants. We may have to send you for a fit for duty evaluation