705 red, you make me ill, with all your so callled compassion for all the other non ups retired employees in the cs plan. Give me a break theres only so much bs I can take. Why dont those non ups retired workers give us a break and take a cut in their pensions. Were the one s that have mortages,kids to raise and put through college, big grocery bills, etc, etc. Hey alot of those retires are getting ss benefits now. They dont care about us. UPS is getting screwed Big Time. I wonder sometimes how they make a Profit.