Contract proposals for 2018

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I am adamant (in the fact), that the progression is long enough.

No need to add to it.

There are other issues we need to focus on.



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We don't need to add to it but you know it's going to happen

 

[BigUnionGuy]

We don't need to add to it but you know it's going to happen

It's all speculation at this point.

The TDU people, can postulate.... all they want.


Pfft.



-Bug-

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

It's all speculation at this point.

The TDU people, can postulate.... all they want.


Pfft.



-Bug-

We shall see

 

[BigUnionGuy]

We shall see

And, the majority of voting members.... will decide.



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[burrheadd]

I am adamant (in the fact), that the progression is long enough.

No need to add to it.

There are other issues we need to focus on.



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So, what are these issues?

Or is it some kind of secret

Like past negotiations

 

[baklava]

GWIs that keeps up with inflation. Leave everything else the same.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

So, what are these issues?

Or is it some kind of secret

Like past negotiations

Members have voiced their thoughts and concerns in this thread.

The true test, will be will be when the members attend their Locals'

meeting and put the issues and priorities on paper.

Nothing secretive about that.



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[hyena]

Members have voiced their thoughts and concerns in this thread.

The true test, will be will be when the members attend their Locals'

meeting and put the issues and priorities on paper.

Nothing secretive about that.



-Bug-

Some people just don't get that it's up to us. We put in the proposals to the IBT and they negotiate on our behalf. I'm curious to know how many of the members were actually involved with proposals the last contract? The National passed and the majority rule. I wonder how many people just voted and didn't read everything or just went by hearsay? People have to get involved.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Some people just don't get that it's up to us. We put in the proposals to the IBT and they negotiate on our behalf. I'm curious to know how many of the members were actually involved with proposals the last contract? The National passed and the majority rule. I wonder how many people just voted and didn't read everything or just went by hearsay? People have to get involved.

It barely passed and the voter turnout was terrible.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Some people just don't get that it's up to us. We put in the proposals to the IBT and they negotiate on our behalf. I'm curious to know how many of the members were actually involved with proposals the last contract? The National passed and the majority rule. I wonder how many people just voted and didn't read everything or just went by hearsay? People have to get involved.

Couldn't have said it any better.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

It barely passed and the voter turnout was terrible.

And, who's fault is that ?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

And, who's fault is that ?

The members.

 

[wide load]

Some people just don't get that it's up to us. We put in the proposals to the IBT and they negotiate on our behalf. I'm curious to know how many of the members were actually involved with proposals the last contract? The National passed and the majority rule. I wonder how many people just voted and didn't read everything or just went by hearsay? People have to get involved.

20% show interest.
20% of that involvement.
20% of that submitted proposals.
So not many.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

20% show interest.
20% of that involvement.
20% of that submitted proposals.
So not many.

Sounds about right considering about 20% of the eligible members to vote passed the last contract
.
Very sad.

 

[Bubblehead]

Some people just don't get that it's up to us. We put in the proposals to the IBT and they negotiate on our behalf. I'm curious to know how many of the members were actually involved with proposals the last contract? The National passed and the majority rule. I wonder how many people just voted and didn't read everything or just went by hearsay? People have to get involved.

It hasn't always been that way in the past, so don't be surprised when people still show a degree of cynicism.

Many of us feel that our voices weren't heard in the previous contract, neither before or after.
The word "imposed" still stings as it rings in our ears.

Many of us are going to participate, watch, and see if this time is different?
I hope it is, but am not as convinced as you that "it is up to us".

 

[Bubblehead]

It barely passed and the voter turnout was terrible.

And, who's fault is that ?

The members.

.....and the Officers and Agents of the IBT and every Local in the Union.


.....but then again , they are also dues paying members?




~Bbbl~™

 

[BigUnionGuy]

.....and the Officers and Agents of the IBT and every Local in the Union.


.....but then again , they are also dues paying members?




~Bbbl~™

Does dissatisfaction with your Local leadership....

Always translate to hurt feelings with the IBT ??

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Does dissatisfaction with your Local leadership....

Always translate to hurt feelings with the IBT ??

Screw the IBT. They are just worried about money, not the members

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Screw the IBT.

No.

The members screw themselves, for lack of participation.


And UPS sits back.... and laughs.



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[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

No.

The members screw themselves, for lack of participation.


And UPS sits back.... and laughs.



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I do my part I really try. But I have Zero faith in our leadership. Guess you have a lot of friends in Canada.