Covid vaccine.

[Off the leash]

I’m not sure if they’re the worst because the media and people who work in education in this country are more rotten

They suck equally

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Libertarians are crazy.

You can’t just let people do whatever they want without ANY regulation, especially during a time of economic/social crisis.

“MY RIGHTS”

How deadly does the virus need to be; before you relinquish FORCING YOUR DESIRE, in the name of your fellow man?

How deadly does the "solution" have to be before you relinquish forcing your desire that others risk their own lives to help you feel safer?

Who has the authority to decide what regulations are necessary and good, and why?

How many examples of "authorities" forcing people to do things, leading to unimaginable atrocities, do you need before you start to lay the blame at the right feet? Which crazy libertarians were responsible for funding illegal virus research? Which crazy libertarian is responsible for sloppy safety protocols leading to the release of a synthetic virus?

And both rights and regulations are important. Everyone has a right not to be infected by a man made virus, which is why the regulation against that type of experimentation was passed. It wasn't a crazy libertarian who ignored that regulation.

You see, it's not individuals insisting on that everyone's rights be respected who are the problem, It's the people in power who ignore the rights of others, and believe they are above the regulations who are the problem. These also happen to be the same people telling you the vaccine is safe and effective.

I appreciate and respect the passion and enthusiasm you have for protecting those around you. I feel the same, I just don't see how submitting to group think and believing people in power who have proven many times over not to be trustworthy are the best ways to protect those around me. So let's focus the blame where we can do the most good for protecting our loved ones.

To me it’s like “wtf are you whining about?”
You don’t have the vax
You haven’t been forced to get the vax
It is clear and obvious that people are dying from this virus. You CLEARLY, clearly are not AS concerned with those dying as you are YOUR RIGHTS.
You’re getting what you want. So what’s your problem?

Who's whining? Last I checked, I was saying no one should be forced to vaccinate, and I've been pointing out the sorts of things that can happen when people accept the idea of forced vaccination. In case you haven't noticed, lots of people still think it's a good idea, so I better sound the alarm now, rather than wait until it's too late.

The way I see it, I care far more for the safety and well-being of others than people who virtue-signal about how great they are for having consented to medical experimentation without compensation. The chances of someone else getting hurt as a result of me not getting the shot are statistically non-existent, whereas the chances of me getting hurt or killed by the vaccine, however low, still register, not to mention we don't know the true extent of harm over the long term. You have to make the best decisions you can, based on the information you find credible, to keep yourself healthy first. You can't help anyone else of you are hurt or dead.

Am I getting what I want? Where did you get that idea? If the FDA approves the vaccines, people like me are going to have to fight tooth and nail, risking everything, just to protect everyone's right to choose what medical treatment's and procedures we will be subjected to. All the while, we will be enduring the scorn of people who don't care about anyone's rights.

 

[Netsua 3:16]

I’m not sure if they’re the worst because the media and people who work in education in this country are more rotten

My pops is a high school history teacher Come over sometime, we’ll try to track down the CRT curriculum together; so far in 20 years it’s never even been brought up to him as a thing until 2020

 

[Netsua 3:16]

How deadly does the "solution" have to be before you relinquish forcing your desire that others risk their own lives to help you feel safer?

Who has the authority to decide what regulations are necessary and good, and why?

How many examples of "authorities" forcing people to do things, leading to unimaginable atrocities, do you need before you start to lay the blame at the right feet? Which crazy libertarians were responsible for funding illegal virus research? Which crazy libertarian is responsible for sloppy safety protocols leading to the release of a synthetic virus?

And both rights and regulations are important. Everyone has a right not to be infected by a man made virus, which is why the regulation against that type of experimentation was passed. It wasn't a crazy libertarian who ignored that regulation.

You see, it's not individuals insisting on that everyone's rights be respected who are the problem, It's the people in power who ignore the rights of others, and believe they are above the regulations who are the problem. These also happen to be the same people telling you the vaccine is safe and effective.

I appreciate and respect the passion and enthusiasm you have for protecting those around you. I feel the same, I just don't see how submitting to group think and believing people in power who have proven many times over not to be trustworthy are the best ways to protect those around me. So let's focus the blame where we can do the most good for protecting our loved ones.



Who's whining? Last I checked, I was saying no one should be forced to vaccinate, and I've been pointing out the sorts of things that can happen when people accept the idea of forced vaccination. In case you haven't noticed, lots of people still think it's a good idea, so I better sound the alarm now, rather than wait until it's too late.

The way I see it, I care far more for the safety and well-being of others than people who virtue-signal about how great they are for having consented to medical experimentation without compensation. The chances of someone else getting hurt as a result of me not getting the shot are statistically non-existent, whereas the chances of me getting hurt or killed by the vaccine, however low, still register, not to mention we don't know the true extent of harm over the long term. You have to make the best decisions you can, based on the information you find credible, to keep yourself healthy first. You can't help anyone else of you are hurt or dead.

Am I getting what I want? Where did you get that idea? If the FDA approves the vaccines, people like me are going to have to fight tooth and nail, risking everything, just to protect everyone's right to choose what medical treatment's and procedures we will be subjected to. All the while, we will be enduring the scorn of people who don't care about anyone's rights.

Whining and backtracking.
“When did I say that? What do you mean? I didn’t mean that, I meant this”

All the while, we will be enduring the scorn of people who don't care about anyone's rights.

BOO HOO Z BOO HOO
Here’s a tissue. You libertarians are so persecuted.

 

[Off the leash]

My pops is a high school history teacher Come over sometime, we’ll try to track down the CRT curriculum together; so far in 20 years it’s never even been brought up to him as a thing until 2020

Calm down, not all teachers are bad. I have several dedicated teachers in my family. I myself went to college and took post grad courses to become one. But that’s a story for another day.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

That number was retracted. lol.

Really? Are you talking about the 60% vaccinated hospitalization rate in the UK that was changed to 40%? Or are you talking about the actual effectiveness of the vaccine in Isreal, which has dropped to under 50%? How many boosters do you think it will take before we lick this thing? How safe is it to get more than two shots? Oh, right, we don't know, because it hasn't been tested.

 

[Off the leash]

Really? Are you talking about the 60% vaccinated hospitalization rate in the UK that was changed to 40%? Or are you talking about the actual effectiveness of the vaccine in Isreal, which has dropped to under 50%? How many boosters do you think it will take before we lick this thing? How safe is it to get more than two shots? Oh, right, we don't know, because it hasn't been tested.

Never gonna let it end, just gearing up for the 2022 election

 

[upschuck]

From Cambridge Dictionary
Vaccinate : to give someone a vaccine, usually by injection, to "Prevent" them from getting the disease".
Vaccine : a substance containing a virus or bacterium (which this one does not) in a form that is not harmful, given to a person or animal to prevent them from getting the disease that the virus or bacterium causes

So after this "Vaccine" your not "Vaccinated" (prevented) from getting COVID so therefore it is not a true vaccine.

You do realize that antibodies work inside your body, and not outside your body, therefore by that definition, there is no such thing as a vaccine.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Whining and backtracking.
“When did I say that? What do you mean? I didn’t mean that, I meant this”

All the while, we will be enduring the scorn of people who don't care about anyone's rights.

BOO HOO Z BOO HOO
Here’s a tissue. You libertarians are so persecuted.

You're proving my point, lol. And you can't even tell the difference between correctly denying ever having said something and backtracking. What hope is there for you?

 

[zubenelgenubi]

You do realize that antibodies work inside your body, and not outside your body, therefore by that definition, there is no such thing as a vaccine.

That makes zero sense.

 

[Off the leash]

You do realize that antibodies work inside your body, and not outside your body, therefore by that definition, there is no such thing as a vaccine.

Stick to packages there Doc

 

[Netsua 3:16]

You're proving my point, lol. And you can't even tell the difference between correctly denying ever having said something and backtracking. What hope is there for you?

What point did I prove for you Z?
I challenge you to give me a concise answer that doesn’t require 500 words to stifle through, I do not care about your convoluted inner dialogue every single damn time you make a point. It’s horrifying to read

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

Because big pharma is the biggest piece of sh** in the world: and we repeatedly elect people who let them get away with it
The end

You:
Rreeeeeeeee go get the vaccine big pharma made!!!

Also you:
Rreeeeeeeee big pharma is evil!

 

[upschuck]

That makes zero sense.

Sure it does, which word is too difficult for you to understand, I'll try to dumb it down for you.

 

[Netsua 3:16]

You:
Rreeeeeeeee go get the vaccine big pharma made!!!

Also you:
Rreeeeeeeee big pharma is evil!

DIDO. Please. This is no time for you cute conservative quips.
Do you normally decline treatment from doctors when injured or sick?
Cause you know, big pharma devil, so I guess we should just let ourselves die when we get sick

 

[Off the leash]

Threads heating up! Lol

 

[Off the leash]

DIDO. Please. This is no time for you cute conservative quips.
Do you normally decline treatment from doctors when injured or sick?

I do from Quacks

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

Do you normally decline treatment from doctors when injured or sick?

I'm not injured or sick.

 

[Netsua 3:16]

I'm not injured or sick.

Hope you never are, pal

 

[Off the leash]

Hope you never are, pal

Strong like bull comrade!