Defund the Police Excuse Making - Enabling Anti-American Hate Groups

[zubenelgenubi]

blacks live within the empires internal colonies and endure increased police repression and surveillance to fill the prison system and pay taxes disguised as fines for things like standing on the sidewalk, having your grass too long, etc.

You watch too many movies and think they are a complete reflection of reality.

 

[rickyb]

You watch too many movies and think they are a complete reflection of reality.

your words not mine.

 

[rickyb]

Yup, more police means less crime.
Stupid Democraps struggle with that fact.

lets have a police state then!

o wait...

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

lets have a police state then!

o wait...

You're Canadian.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

btw the idea that something is "anti american" is only seen in more authoritarian societies. theres no such thing as "anti italian" for example.

Saying that a person needs to believe in most of the beliefs and behaviors in this chart to be an American ...

... does not mean if one does not, that they are "Anti-American"​

 

[rickyb]

Saying that a person needs to believe in most of the beliefs and behaviors in this chart to be an American ...

... does not mean if one does not, that they are "Anti-American"​

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im talking about the term anti american if u are critical of policy, not your culture and values. theres not such thing as anti french! there is anti russian i believe. its only used in totalitarian states and america.

 

[rickyb]

You're Canadian.

police state police state

XMAS POLICE STATE

 

[Shift 2]

That's a cop out (pun intended). You can't defend your position, so you pretend that I'm the problem. So please, enlighten me. What am I missing?

If you understood how budgets work, you would know that saying police need to make more money is the same as saying they are underfunded. Unless you think some other budget item is overfunded and you think that can be cut to provide the officers with raises. What part of the police budget do you think can be cut in order to raise the officers' salaries? What part can be defunded beyond that to increase funds to mental health and social workers? Enquiring minds want to know.

Take your win man lol. I don’t have that kind of time on my hands. I didn’t all of a sudden become super political and got really interested in what was going on around the country like I’m sure most people did when trump fist ran for office. Also I didn’t disrespect our brown brother by trying to start a debate about BLM. @Indecision mad a comment about defunding the police and I responded with something I’m hopes that he would look at the situation from both sides of the fence. He or she normally likes to ride the fence (and other things) anyway so I figured they would maybe understand what I was trying to say. Then you made it a debate trying to argue with me because you feel so strongly and feel your so knowledgeable about what’s going on.

 

[SLW]

On the mental health issue, it was the democrats who closed down all the mental health facilities and forced everyone to become homeless and start living on the streets.

Rarely hear anyone fault Democrats for that. Reagan usually gets the blame. But neither is true and both are true: It was a bipartisan effort at every level of government.

 

[Fred's Myth]

"What would police city budgets look like if they had kept pace with homicide rates?

Take New York City, which spent $3.4 billion on policing in 1994, after adjustments for inflation. That year, the city saw 1,561 homicides. If that spending ratio had held constant, New York would have spent less than $1 billion in 2017, as a decades-long drop in violence reduced the need for policing.

Instead, New York spent more than $5 billion.'

Politico

You’re just rickyb2, no personal opinions, just able to quote others.

 

[rickyb]

You’re just rickyb2, no personal opinions, just able to quote others.

we all follow our herd. can you imagine you and zub have typical right wing views?

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Take your win man lol. I don’t have that kind of time on my hands. I didn’t all of a sudden become super political and got really interested in what was going on around the country like I’m sure most people did when trump fist ran for office. Also I didn’t disrespect our brown brother by trying to start a debate about BLM. @Indecision mad a comment about defunding the police and I responded with something I’m hopes that he would look at the situation from both sides of the fence. He or she normally likes to ride the fence (and other things) anyway so I figured they would maybe understand what I was trying to say. Then you made it a debate trying to argue with me because you feel so strongly and feel your so knowledgeable about what’s going on.

I didn't say you were being disrespectful, just that I was upset about your posting this topic on that thread. I started this thread to discuss the matter out of respect because I didn't want to derail the other thread.

I don't care as much about the defund the police movement, because I'm pretty sure most people understand what they are really about. It's people who try to superimpose their own views onto that movement, and ones like it, to try and get people to support it, when they don't even know what it is, that bothers me. It's deceitful, and I felt the need to call it out.

If you don't want to defend your positions, I suggest you think twice about posting them on public forums. Debating ideas is the original/main purpose of forums. If you make absurd statements, people are likely to point out why they are absurd.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

im talking about the term anti american if u are critical of policy, not your culture and values. theres not such thing as anti french! there is anti russian i believe. its only used in totalitarian states and america.

Only anti-_____ that exist are the ones rickyb says exists. I'd be pretty comfortable speculating that there are subversive elements in just about any country.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

we all follow our herd. can you imagine you and zub have typical right wing views?

I'm conservative, but I don't follow a herd. Definitely more of an outsider. If I spoke to anyone long enough, I'm sure I'd express a view that would enrage them. I don't care as much about fitting in as I do pursuing the truth, and the truth is often hurtful to people who are comfortably ensconced in their cocoon of lies.

 

[rickyb]

Only anti-_____ that exist are the ones rickyb says exists. I'd be pretty comfortable speculating that there are subversive elements in just about any country.

thats not the same thing as being called anti american or anti russian.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

thats not the same thing as being called anti american or anti russian.

To you. But I'm not too concerned about learning your language.

 

[rickyb]

To you. But I'm not too concerned about learning your language.

well ur the one using terms you dont understand. alot of americans got hung up on the term terrorism without knowing what it means.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

Rarely hear anyone fault Democrats for that. Reagan usually gets the blame. But neither is true and both are true: It was a bipartisan effort at every level of government.

Opposition to mental institutions was started in the 50's and stems from people being committed to mental institutions against their will and the common deplorable conditions of life in them.
Democrats mostly but Repugs as well thought it was an infringement on personal rights of the individuals.

Geraldo Riviera made his first big splash on the American conscious with the 1972 exposé of
Willowbrook State School, Staten Island, New York.

 

[SLW]

Opposition to mental institutions was started in the 50's and stems from people being committed to mental institutions against their will and the common deplorable conditions of life in them.
Democrats mostly but Repugs as well thought it was an infringement on personal rights of the individuals.

Geraldo Riviera made his first big splash on the American conscious with the 1972 exposé of Willowbrook State School, Staten Island, New York.

That special is still one of the most disturbing, terrible, and memorable things I've ever watched.

 

[MyTripisCut]

That special is still one of the most disturbing, terrible, and memorable things I've ever watched.

You’re old AF