Democrats that support Communism....why?

rickyb

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Conspiracy? All above fact.
obama deported like crazy, in addition immigrants are not responsible for america's big problems.

terrorist muslims are needle in a haystack. the religion is overwhelmingly peaceful.

9/11 was because of american wars and election interferrence abroad.
 

Turdferguson

Just a turd
Proof of Russian help? Come on man!

Gosh you sound like a lunatic shouting from a street corner....fun huh?

So, crying about election fraud? OMG. Vote early and often eh?

But then never mind me(worrying about commie democrats), how about you? Bet not, cause you are one. You haven't denied it yet. Own it. Blue here. Bet yours is brown from all the smoke. You know looting, burning rioting. From YOUR PEOPLE.

#own it
His campaign manager was under control of Russia, and his campaign was benefiting from Russia hacking of DNC servers, but none of that was beneficial to Trumps campaign.
None of that is conspiracy theory.
 

quad decade guy

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Sure it is. And sure you do. I think we've got our answer here. :)
You aren't answering because you are ashamed. Admitting you support the slaughter/murder of hundreds of millions is pretty bold. Come on man!

So, you are voting for healthcare. Think carefully before answering. Do you really think universal healthcare is the same for all in a communist country? Think carefully. Critically. Be honest for once.
 

Box Ox

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So, you are voting for healthcare. Think carefully before answering. Do you really think universal healthcare is the same for all in a communist country? Think carefully. Critically. Be honest for once.

Not sure. I've never considered healthcare policy in communist countries.
 

rickyb

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Indeed. I'm a multiple gun owner who believes in equality of opportunity rather than equality of outcome. I think capitalism is still the best way to lift the most people out of poverty. And that strong border protections are a must for any sovereign nation that wants to ensure its current social programs remain as sustainable as possible over the long term.

All of these things used to be OK for a Democratic voter in the US to believe in. No longer. I claim these values in 2020 and @It will be fine tells me I might as well vote for Trump. The Democratic Party I have indeed strongly supported and gone door to door for in the past and voted for in every single election over the past few decades is not the Democratic Party of today.

For this reason, I think the Democrats are going to have a lot of problems retaining moderate voters in the 2020 election. If the Republicans were running Tim Scott or Nikki Haley instead of a bloviating :censored2: for President I'd be absolutely sure of it.

Are you also an unaffiliated moderate voter?
u dont even know about other systems besides the ones that dont work LOL

u dont even know what reforms america should pass to the current system
 
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Jones

fILE A GRIEVE!
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You aren't answering because you are ashamed. Admitting you support the slaughter/murder of hundreds of millions is pretty bold. Come on man!

So, you are voting for healthcare. Think carefully before answering. Do you really think universal healthcare is the same for all in a communist country? Think carefully. Critically. Be honest for once.
I'm gonna assume you meant to quote me but you got so agitated you hit the wrong button.
The healthcare policies I'm talking about are things like lowering the age for medicare to 60, tax breaks to offset the costs of long term care, and offering a public option to compete with private insurance. These would all potentially have a big impact on me. I hope they would not lead to the "slaughter/murder of hundreds of millions", but I suppose anything is possible.
 

The big package

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working hard and succeeding is a myth. part of it is luck like being born rich. america has some of the worst economic mobility in the world, so thats another myth. maybe you were once the best. you are living in the past. capitalism is not and never has been the best thing going because it centralizes power. so the people with all the power use it for thier gain at everyone expense.
You couldn't be more wrong , Venezuela and Cuba is the perfect models for what socialism does . Venezuela , One of the wealthiest countries in the world completely destroyed everything that the people had went to make Government more powerful and rich . I suggest you listen to people that fleed there . It turned into complete anarchy . No countries citizens have ever prospered from socialism , appreciate what you have!!!
 

rickyb

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You couldn't be more wrong , Venezuela and Cuba is the perfect models for what socialism does . Venezuela , One of the wealthiest countries in the world completely destroyed everything that the people had went to make Government more powerful and rich . I suggest you listen to people that fleed there . It turned into complete anarchy . No countries citizens have ever prospered from socialism , appreciate what you have!!!
did cuba or venezuela give workers control? im not talking about govt controlling jobs.

otherwise it doesnt meet my definition.
 

The big package

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This is you, no?
I’ve gone door to door for Democratic Presidential candidates and voted for every Democratic candidate on the ballots for years.
If you want to say you're not a democrat, you just go door to door campaigning for them and voting for them in every election, ok then.
Voting for somebody just because they are apart of one political party doesn't make any sense , vote for what they have accomplished and what they plan to do for the country , otherwise you're just narrow-minded !!!!
 

The big package

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did cuba or venezuela give workers control? im not talking about govt controlling jobs.

otherwise it doesnt meet my definition.
No , that's not the way socialism works . Government tells you want you are going to do and not do . Also they will also in most cases take a piece of the action , it's Mafia like . Why do you think the people rebel , Cubans risked their lives to get out , some floated across the ocean in little rafts to get here !!!
 

rickyb

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No , that's not the way socialism works . Government tells you want you are going to do and not do . Also they will also in most cases take a piece of the action , it's Mafia like . Why do you think the people rebel , Cubans risked their lives to get out , some floated across the ocean in little rafts to get here !!!
well regardless of what you wanna call it, we dont want govt telling us what to do anymore than we want bosses telling us what to do.

if you think bosses telling you what to do is freedom then ive got a brooklyn bridge id like to sell u
 

The big package

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well regardless of what you wanna call it, we dont want govt telling us what to do anymore than we want bosses telling us what to do.

if you think bosses telling you what to do is freedom then ive got a brooklyn bridge id like to sell u
. Agreed , that's why people start their own businesses !!!!!
 

rickyb

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. Agreed , that's why people start their own businesses !!!!!
yea so they can take freedom away from their workers. its not freedom. why do you think most people want to own their business? its because they dont want to be on the receiving end of capitalism ie a worker.
 

vantexan

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yea so they can take freedom away from their workers. its not freedom. why do you think most people want to own their business? its because they dont want to be on the receiving end of capitalism ie a worker.
It's so they can do better for themselves and their family
 

rickyb

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Anybody who thinks government controlling healthcare , the environment etc , Will benefit you , I've got some swamp land I'd like to sell you!!!
case after case you can look at different countries that have tried govt control in certain sectors and succeeded. this is a separate argument from worker control which is not capitalist, nor govt.

for example, in america theres no law for vacation time. its left to the free market. the result is america takes less vacation than every other developed country which plans their vacations with laws of 4 weeks or more.
 
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