Thanks jibbs you always have good info, that price isn't to bad, that I can handle but not 200$ I looked at the reviews and many people seen to swear by them, I believe that's exactly what I need to get. Do you know if their available in brown? I appreciate all of the info, my feet and ankles kill me from preload and then going to go do driver helper, 12hrs on your feet takes a toll on your legs, I'm deffinately goina give those a try! Appreciate it a lot bud