Do you believe UPS should be reported to OSHA for not supplying water correctly nor adequately to you and your coworkers? ( On Topic Only Please)

[qdg2]

UPS hasn’t adjusted with the times because they believe a comfortable PCD isn’t a productive one. Even with todays enhancements the company is about profits over driver safety. Drivers have to pee in bottles or face discipline and also drive with no fans is a fundamentally wrong on so many levels.
We had to deal with it back in the day but there’s no excuse now for the company. Can’t have a fan but you can have a camera. What’s the straw that breaks the camels back..? I don’t know but the fact drivers are dying and not much if anything is being done about it is disheartening.

Uh no.

A very, very few. One is too many. Most likely a driver dies from decisions he's made. We also have no control from congenital defects and the like. We all have choices up to and including working somewhere else. When UPS didn't provide bottled water.....I brought my own. I was once written up for taking too much water(4 bottles) for my 12 hour feeder run. My steward just sat there. He had the same pro mgt view I see by Stewards on here.

 

[qdg2]

What is interesting...

The attitudes of some on here.....

About water!

 

[DumbTruckDriver]

To put some reality to this.

In your opinion how much water should a UPS Package Car Driver have taken with him/her to ensure there was an adequate supply for the full day in Houston Texas this week?

Figure a 10 hour work day and a heavy workload.

I’m relatively close to Houston with a 10 hour work day and a heavy workload. I use a gallon metal jug and a 30 oz Yeti tumbler that I fill with ice and water at work. In addition, I have a gallon jug that I freeze overnight. This goes in a cooler with fruit and a couple bottles of electrolytes (not provided by UPS unless they happen to hand out Gatorades that day) that I fill with ice when I get to work. I typically go through about 2.5 gallons of liquids a day.

 

[burrheadd]

What is interesting...

The attitudes of some on here.....

About water!

It’s not about the water
It’s about being able to take care of
yourself without somebody having to do it for you

 

[qdg2]

It’s not about the water
It’s about being able to take care of
yourself without somebody having to do it for you

The thread is about water and UPS supplying it.

If I work at UPS, they have to provide water.

See, I work at UPS. You?

And why is there even a debate about water? This is unreal to me......by people that don't even work at UPS.

 

[trotsky]

I’m curious why adults think a company has to provide them with water other than from a faucet or water fountain, ice yes, but why bottled water?

Because the fountains are bird baths and chewing tobacco spitoons. Im sure its easier for them to order a few pallets of water than to clean anything

 

[ManInBrown]

Part time hub workers, yes. Water should absolutely be provided. FT package and feeder drivers, no. We make enough to buy our own water, buy some type of igloo and bring it to work every day. UPS isn’t your parents packing your lunch for school in the morning. Be responsible and make sure you’re prepared. All I want is a check that doesn’t bounce every Friday. Nothing else. They owe me nothing but a paycheck, and I owe them a fair days effort every day.

 

[trotsky]

Part time hub workers, yes. Water should absolutely be provided. FT package and feeder drivers, no. We make enough to buy our own water, buy some type of igloo and bring it to work every day. UPS isn’t your parents packing your lunch for school in the morning. Be responsible and make sure you’re prepared. All I want is a check that doesn’t bounce every Friday. Nothing else. They owe me nothing but a paycheck, and I owe them a fair days effort every day.

I bring water, some drivers take pride in the 200 waterbottle caps on the dash. Laziness i guess. Id rather drink a bit less plastic myself.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

I'm probably not going to read the whole thread, so apologies if this has been covered. My take is if the company doesn't supply water as required by OSHA, they sure can't fire people for "stealing time" to procure it.

 

[trotsky]

I'm probably not going to read the whole thread, so apologies if this has been covered. My take is if the company doesn't supply water as required by OSHA, they sure can't fire people for "stealing time" to procure it.

To sum it up, go in the store and buy water but dont chug any hot dogs if you aren't on break.

 

[Trucker Clock]

What is interesting...

The attitudes of some on here.....

About water!

No, what's interesting is that employees cannot take care of themselves and make sure they stay healthy.

If you go help a buddy put a new roof on his house in the heat of the summer, you make sure you have enough water.

If you go to the park on a hot day, you make sure you have enough water.

If you go hiking, you make sure you have enough water.

If you go flying, you make sure you bring enough water with you.

So why don't you bring enough water to work? OK, so you are cheap and don't want to pay for it because UPS is required to supply it. Bring a cooler and fill it up free of charge with UPS's water. Oh, wait, you say the water fountains are dirty. Then bring your own water. But wait, you also want them to pay for your cooler.

I don't understand how people can't watch out for their own health and make sure they have plenty of water.

I bring a playmate cooler with 2 blue ice packs and 6 bottles of my home filtered water to work everyday. We are not in kindergarten where we need someone else to take care of us and tell us what and when to do something.

If I work at UPS, they have to provide water.

Yes they do. So go to the water fountain and fill up your insulated jug. Bam! There's your free water. Have at it. If you complain enough, I'm sure UPS will even provide you with a water jug. Bam! Free water jug.

It’s not about the water
It’s about being able to take care of
yourself without somebody having to do it for you

He probably wants UPS to serve him breakfast, lunch and dinner also. Oh, wait, he does get a meal allowance so UPS does pay for his food. And now he complains about water.

UPS has decided to provide bottled water at my building. That is the means they have decided upon.

Wrong. They have bottled water to supplement the water fountains.

For one when UPS runs out of water before everyone gets their adequate supply for their shift then this is an OSHA violation.

Wrong. Take one of those empty bottles you drank, walk over to the water fountain and fill it up. Bingo!


UPS is not in violation of OSHA regulations, unless there are no working water fountains in the building.

 

[Trucker Clock]

Because the fountains are bird baths and chewing tobacco spitoons.

UPS is fulfilling its OSHA obligations by supplying potable water in a drinking fountain. Is it their fault that your fellow employees, your fellow Union members, want to treat he water fountains that way?

They should be cleaned on a daily basis, but if your buddy wants to spit in the fountain, call him out on it. Or better yet, grab his water bottle, take a swig and spit it back in the bottle and hand it back to him and tell him to drink it. Tell him that's basically what he is doing to the water fountain.

 

[Poop Head]

Hydrate me.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

UPS is fulfilling its OSHA obligations by supplying potable water in a drinking fountain. Is it their fault that your fellow employees, your fellow Union members, want to treat he water fountains that way?

They should be cleaned on a daily basis, but if your buddy wants to spit in the fountain, call him out on it. Or better yet, grab his water bottle, take a swig and spit it back in the bottle and hand it back to him and tell him to drink it. Tell him that's basically what he is doing to the water fountain.

I'm sorry, It's not my job to police other people's behavior, or provoke a fight on company property.

I take responsibility for my own safety, even at the risk of losing my job sometimes. That said, what other laws do you think UPS should be able to ignore because we're big boys?

 

[DumbTruckDriver]

I bring water, some drivers take pride in the 200 waterbottle caps on the dash. Laziness i guess. Id rather drink a bit less plastic myself.

I try to cut out the single use plastic bottles as much as I can. We all consume way too much micro plastics as it is.

 

[Trucker Clock]

I take responsibility for my own safety, even at the risk of losing my job sometimes.

Don't want to drink from, or help keep clean, the fountain? Bring your own water.

That said, what other laws do you think UPS should be able to ignore because we're big boys?

They are not ignoring laws. They are abiding by OSHA and supplying potable water from a drinking fountain. The water coming out of the fountain is potable drinking water.

 

[Wally]

How does UPS provide water to you and your co workers?

Inside employees?

Drivers?

Water fountain to the right. Drink all you want.

People are getting conditioned to think water can only come out of a plastic bottle.

 

[Trucker Clock]

I try to cut out the single use plastic bottles as much as I can. We all consume way too much micro plastics as it is.

I have reusable, cleanable bottles that I bring my water in. I don't use single use plastic bottles.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Don't want to drink from, or help keep clean, the fountain? Bring your own water.




They are not ignoring laws. They are abiding by OSHA and supplying potable water from a drinking fountain. The water coming out of the fountain is potable drinking water.

Ok I'll drive back to the center every time I need a drink.

 

[Trucker Clock]

Ok I'll drive back to the center every time I need a drink.

How old are you?