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vantexan

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Treasury rates are tied to inflation and the Fed Funds rate. With today's Fed announcement of possible cuts in 24, the yields went lower.
When we had high inflation in the late 70's the U.S. government financed its operations with long term 10 and 30 year bonds. But due to all the money printing and erosion of the Dollar long term bonds with lower yields are no longer in favor. Countries and individuals investing in them lose money. The Federal government today is being financed with short term Treasury bills. Allows taking advantage of rising interest rates while not getting too hurt by inflation. Also means the servicing of our debt has almost tripled in the last two years. We are on borrowed time as the debt increases.
 
When we had high inflation in the late 70's the U.S. government financed its operations with long term 10 and 30 year bonds. But due to all the money printing and erosion of the Dollar long term bonds with lower yields are no longer in favor. Countries and individuals investing in them lose money. The Federal government today is being financed with short term Treasury bills. Allows taking advantage of rising interest rates while not getting too hurt by inflation. Also means the servicing of our debt has almost tripled in the last two years. We are on borrowed time as the debt increases.
The Fed really dropped the ball and screwed us over big time

They waited too long to start raising the interest rates, then they was forced to raise and fast

But the biggest mistake was they took out a lot of five year treasuries a couple years ago to finance the debt instead of long-term treasuries when the interest rate was next to nothing
 

vantexan

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The Fed really dropped the ball and screwed us over big time

They waited too long to start raising the interest rates, then they was forced to raise and fast

But the biggest mistake was they took out a lot of five year treasuries a couple years ago to finance the debt instead of long-term treasuries when the interest rate was next to nothing
True, but that's the problem. No one wants to buy long term bonds that pay almost nothing. Inflation, even modest inflation, eats up your investment over time.
 

vantexan

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Bonds don't have to be held to expiration. I believe anytime after 1 year with a penalty.
So which would you buy? A one year T-bill that pays more interest or a 30 year T-bond that pays less interest and you're penalized to get out of it? It's why we're now paying almost a $trillion annually to service the debt.
 
So which would you buy? A one year T-bill that pays more interest or a 30 year T-bond that pays less interest and you're penalized to get out of it? It's why we're now paying almost a $trillion annually to service the debt.
The key thing is what is interest rates going to be one year or two or three years four years down the road from now?
But the two to seven year treasuries look attractive
 

vantexan

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The key thing is what is interest rates going to be one year or two or three years four years down the road from now?
But the two to seven year treasuries look attractive
The extremely low interest rates were an aberration. Likely not happening again anytime soon. But as long as short term Treasuries are paying attractive rates it's not likely T-bonds are going to be attractive to very many.
 
The extremely low interest rates were an aberration. Likely not happening again anytime soon. But as long as short term Treasuries are paying attractive rates it's not likely T-bonds are going to be attractive to very many.
Nobody wanted to buy these because they could get 20% in a money market
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