I'm asking where you draw a line between right and far right.
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I'm asking where you draw a line between right and far right.
DriveInDriѵeOut
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Do you ever get tired of being wrong about everything?
DriveInDriѵeOut
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He literally just said criticizing black people is inherently racist. Doesn't matter what they do, they're black and you can't criticize them
Leftism is a cult that functions on an intersectionality hierarchy. You are at the bottom, so you need to shut up and let the people higher up in the pyramid tell you what to think.
Doublestandards
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DriveInDriѵeOut
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chomskys an anarchist which is to the left
wiki says hedges is socialist / anarchist which is left of liberal
dont know about greenwald. hes against mass surveilance, critical of msm, critical of american forgien policy, called manning a hero. i think hes left wing too based on what i got from chatgpt and his wikipedia. i would say good chance hes a libertarian / socialist
Doublestandards
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I know it’s hard for you, but try to not be so stupid all the time
The post was specifically about their looks
If criticizing black people was inherently racist, I wouldn’t say how much the man in your profile picture sucks
this is chatgpt with noam chomsky analyzing right wing vs far right wing.
"Yes, Noam Chomsky has discussed the differences between right-wing and far-right politics in various contexts, particularly in his critiques of political systems, ideologies, and the media.
In Chomsky's view, the right-wing typically refers to conservative ideologies that emphasize maintaining traditional social structures, limited government, market-driven economies, and individual freedoms within a framework that often upholds existing power structures. Right-wing politics can include a range of positions, from moderate conservatives to more reactionary elements, but generally, they support a capitalist framework, nationalism, and social hierarchies.
The far-right, on the other hand, is often characterized by more extreme, authoritarian, and anti-democratic tendencies. Far-right ideologies may include a strong embrace of ethno-nationalism, racism, xenophobia, and fascism. They are often marked by a rejection of liberal democracy and a tendency toward dictatorial or ultranationalist rule. The far-right might also involve a rejection of multiculturalism, a desire to curb immigration, and often a disdain for the rights of marginalized communities.
Chomsky contrasts these two categories by emphasizing that while the right-wing may seek to preserve the status quo or implement gradual conservative changes, the far-right seeks more radical, often violent, transformations of society. For example, the far-right may actively seek the dismantling of democratic institutions and the establishment of a more authoritarian or fascist system, whereas right-wing politics might work within the bounds of democratic institutions but still aim for conservative or capitalist reforms.
In his critique of U.S. politics and the global system, Chomsky often stresses that the rise of far-right ideologies represents a significant threat to democratic norms, citing movements that push authoritarianism, racism, and the erosion of civil liberties.
While Chomsky’s focus is usually on critiquing the structures of power (including capitalism and imperialism), he has indeed drawn clear distinctions between the right-wing and far-right, particularly in the context of social, economic, and political consequences."
"Yes, Noam Chomsky has discussed the differences between right-wing and far-right politics in various contexts, particularly in his critiques of political systems, ideologies, and the media.
In Chomsky's view, the right-wing typically refers to conservative ideologies that emphasize maintaining traditional social structures, limited government, market-driven economies, and individual freedoms within a framework that often upholds existing power structures. Right-wing politics can include a range of positions, from moderate conservatives to more reactionary elements, but generally, they support a capitalist framework, nationalism, and social hierarchies.
The far-right, on the other hand, is often characterized by more extreme, authoritarian, and anti-democratic tendencies. Far-right ideologies may include a strong embrace of ethno-nationalism, racism, xenophobia, and fascism. They are often marked by a rejection of liberal democracy and a tendency toward dictatorial or ultranationalist rule. The far-right might also involve a rejection of multiculturalism, a desire to curb immigration, and often a disdain for the rights of marginalized communities.
Chomsky contrasts these two categories by emphasizing that while the right-wing may seek to preserve the status quo or implement gradual conservative changes, the far-right seeks more radical, often violent, transformations of society. For example, the far-right may actively seek the dismantling of democratic institutions and the establishment of a more authoritarian or fascist system, whereas right-wing politics might work within the bounds of democratic institutions but still aim for conservative or capitalist reforms.
In his critique of U.S. politics and the global system, Chomsky often stresses that the rise of far-right ideologies represents a significant threat to democratic norms, citing movements that push authoritarianism, racism, and the erosion of civil liberties.
While Chomsky’s focus is usually on critiquing the structures of power (including capitalism and imperialism), he has indeed drawn clear distinctions between the right-wing and far-right, particularly in the context of social, economic, and political consequences."
They are varying degrees of liberal.
Now take out far-right and insert far-left in the above paragraph.
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chomsky and hedges describe liberal class as guys who support reforms to capitalism. they call it political centre
them being socialists mean they cant also be a liberal LOL
DriveInDriѵeOut
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Do you ever get tired of being wrong about everything? Take a deep breath Harry.
you shouldnt mix up people calling themselves far left when they are really far right. far left would be democracy and worker self determination.
There is such a thing as a classic liberal. Today's liberalism isn't that. If you support woke ideology then that's what most liberals today embrace.
You didn't substitute then read it again.
i used chatgpt for your substitution remark and thats what it said
i understand your confusion because political leaders and MSM says communism is X when its really not.
Leftists and comrades can't help but call anything they don't like "far-right" racist, xenophobic or facist. Which is one of the reasons they're not taken very seriously by normal people who are into common sense things.
Doublestandards
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Are you really going to pretend there’s not a link with far right political views and racism? Do you not read the things posted on this site by the self admitted far right?
thats chat gpt describing chomsky's assessment of it
unless youre clueless about the definitions, it seems pretty reasonable that would be what hte far right is considering this is the google result i got of left wing
if youre in favor of greater social equality, then it goes to say thats the opposite of racism.
All you have to do is watch the reactions of Martha's Vineyard residents after DeSantis sent a plane load of illegal immigrants to know the Left talks a good game but when push comes to shove it's very quickly "not in my back yard." Multiple examples of this out there, like the uproar in Westchester County, NY, a very blue county, when subsidized housing for the poor was proposed.