wkmac
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Drug lords targeted by Fast and Furious were FBI informants
Now will the bleating partiarches be able to see beyond and begin to follow to the conclusions?
Fast And Furious Takes An Interesting Turn
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Drug lords targeted by Fast and Furious were FBI informants
Now will the bleating partiarches be able to see beyond and begin to follow to the conclusions?
moreluck
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moreluck
golden ticket member
From what I understand....IF Holder showed the pres. some papers or talked to the prez. about some papers then Obama could use E.P. to secrete that conversation and those papers.
The problem is, way back when , Holder said he didn't go to the white house with any of this....and the pres. also said he knew nothing about this operation back in 2011. Somebody's lying and why???
Just_another_day_at_work
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If interested:
What Is Executive Privilege? | ZeroHedge
What Is Executive Privilege? | ZeroHedge
moreluck
golden ticket member
It actually makes Holder & Obama look like partners in crime.
Makes Holder the reason so much money was spent on all this....stonewalling is costly. It all shadows and casts doubt on the re-run for Obama.
Catatonic
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Brownfrown
Active Member
Somebody very close to the top of this administration is guilty as chit. Fast & Furious was NOTHING more than an attempt to fabricate a border gun smuggling crisis in order to give "grounds" for said administration to have carte blanche with their gun control agenda. Problem is, they can't run a scandal any better than they can the economy or foreign policy matters and now a (possibly two) border patrol agents' blood are on their hands. Executive privilege, as invoked yesterday, is nothing more than a maneuver for buying the time between now and November.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
Oh yeah ... we don't want to learn from history.
Where can I go to sign that petition?
So what happened to "Change"? At least you're admitting he's just another dirty politician.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
That does have a plausible sound to it ... I am a bit skeptical though.
Wait, is this all about Obama's plan to revoke the Second Amendment by doing a 'Rope-a dope'?
FWIW, The hair brained idea was cooked up by the Arizona office way back when that 'other guy' was president. We all know you can't spell 'Crazy' without 'AZ'. Not one of the people who cooked up this idea has been asked to testify. Issa is requesting documents that were produced well after the operation was ended.
I found this tidbit, and rather than paraphrase, I'll just quote it:
Issa’s uncovered no evidence showing Holder bears any blame for the botched operations begun under George W. Bush, even though the Justice Department turned over thousands of pages of documents concerning the operations. Instead of accepting this fact, Issa has requested many more documents containing confidential information regarding ongoing law enforcement investigations, and is now threatening to hold Holder in contempt if these documents are not turned over. Holder is entirely correct to withhold these documents, however, because Justice Department documents are not subject to congressional subpoena if they would reveal “strategies and procedures that could be used by individuals seeking to evade [DOJ's] law enforcement efforts.”
Reagan’s Justice Department Agreed With Holder: President Reagan’s Justice Department warned in the 1980s that the Constitution’s separation of powers prevents the kind of documents Issa is seeking from being revealed to Congress because of the risk that the legislature could “exert pressure or attempt to influence the prosecution of criminal cases.”
How about the Congress has a vote on something that would help the country, instead of this crap? I believe there are a number of bills that the Speaker won't bring to the floor.
FWIW, The hair brained idea was cooked up by the Arizona office way back when that 'other guy' was president. We all know you can't spell 'Crazy' without 'AZ'. Not one of the people who cooked up this idea has been asked to testify. Issa is requesting documents that were produced well after the operation was ended.
I found this tidbit, and rather than paraphrase, I'll just quote it:
Issa’s uncovered no evidence showing Holder bears any blame for the botched operations begun under George W. Bush, even though the Justice Department turned over thousands of pages of documents concerning the operations. Instead of accepting this fact, Issa has requested many more documents containing confidential information regarding ongoing law enforcement investigations, and is now threatening to hold Holder in contempt if these documents are not turned over. Holder is entirely correct to withhold these documents, however, because Justice Department documents are not subject to congressional subpoena if they would reveal “strategies and procedures that could be used by individuals seeking to evade [DOJ's] law enforcement efforts.”
Reagan’s Justice Department Agreed With Holder: President Reagan’s Justice Department warned in the 1980s that the Constitution’s separation of powers prevents the kind of documents Issa is seeking from being revealed to Congress because of the risk that the legislature could “exert pressure or attempt to influence the prosecution of criminal cases.”
How about the Congress has a vote on something that would help the country, instead of this crap? I believe there are a number of bills that the Speaker won't bring to the floor.
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