How slow are you????? All the drivers are ALREADY employees. Fedex could hire them at the same pay, same taxes, and with fewer managers than one 'ISP' for every 5 drivers. Fedex is ALREADY paying the costs, plus whatever 'profit' you are skimming from the drivers' work.
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How slow are you????? All the drivers are ALREADY employees. Fedex could hire them at the same pay, same taxes, and with fewer managers than one 'ISP' for every 5 drivers. Fedex is ALREADY paying the costs, plus whatever 'profit' you are skimming from the drivers' work.
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No need for personal insults, especially when you're wrong. FedEx is only paying a fraction of the costs they would incur if they hired the drivers as employees. No health benefits, no pension, no 401k. They'd need a whole new set of managers and route engineers and cover drivers, etc.
You simply don't understand that they are already paying those costs through you, and if you aren't paying enough, then you are getting labor subsidized by other taxpayers. And when minimum wage is $15 an hour to get people off of gov't subsidies, you won't be able to afford it. Without paying your drivers less than a living wage, you wouldn't make any money.
It will be fine
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Literally nothing you just said is true.
IWBF's comments are an admission on his part that he exists for one reason and that is to supply X with the cheap trucking and labor that fulfills X's addiction to those inputs. He freely admits that he provides his employees with no health care plan no pension no illness or disability plan leaving his employees to ask their spouses employer to put them on his plan and to pick up the premiums or go get taxpayer subsidized insurance. With no pension and all they have is Social Security it will most likely mean that they will need assistance from publicly funded programs programs later in life if they are not already using them.On the flip side people who go to work for IWBF clearly know these realities and therefore must consider the employment IWBF offers to be nothing more than transitional employment , just something to tide them over until a real job opportunity comes along. Given these facts it should be clear to both parties that no true sense of duty and obligation to one another exists and neither party has a right to expect anything from the other beyond value that is given is on par with the value that is payed.
For one minimum wage $15/ hr is only going into effect in certain high cost of living cities. It is nowhere near that where I am and the proposed minimum wage in my state is far less than that. Secondly there are much more costs than that they would be needing to pay. You don't have much to stand on falling back on the govt subsidies. FedEx doesn't pay that so that in fact is a large chunk they have to come out of pocket. They then would also have more truck insurance, maintenance, fuel, work comp. With their higher paid employees the cost would be ridiculously higher. I understand what you are implying but it is not he case. What they pay us doesn't come close to what their cost of employing our people would be along with taking care of our trucks.
It will be fine
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Bacha, do you see no value in transitional employment? It's a decent job for no education or skills. With the toll it takes on your body, treating it as such is probably the healthiest way to approach it. I always say 5 years is around the most someone should do this job. It's too physically demanding to make a career out of.
+It's fine as long as your expectations are in balance with what you are offering in the way of compensation. However just exactly what is considered to be a balanced agreement between value offered and value expected in return is entirely in the eye of the beholder and for many contractors the challenge is how to maintain that balance in the future given X's growing demand for increased productivity and precision in the face of continued downward pressure on settlements.
dvalleyjim
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Anybody paying a driver a FX ground prices 900.00/wk means he's ... oh geez! Why do I even bother?
