Finally wrote down my hours for this week and I'm short 25 mins

[PT Stewie]

To the point above a dozen + people were shorted @ least 4 hours last week . All reported, management was advised ,union knew and followed up. Yeasterday came and went . No green checks!. What did I say earlier inept or just plain arrogance ? Its Christmas and I am sure the the manager will get his bonus but he could not even take care of the workers. I will hit reply now because I am getting more furious by the minute and may say somethng that needs to be moderated.

 

[Catatonic]

To the point above a dozen + people were shorted @ least 4 hours last week . All reported, management was advised ,union knew and followed up. Yeasterday came and went . No green checks!.

No excuse for not getting people their money they are owed.

 

[PT Stewie]

No excuse for not getting people their money they are owed.

Thank you !

 

[helenofcalifornia]

You are right about the knowledge gap between rookie PTers and FTers. The young 'uns don't care about checking their checks or are intimidated. Just like real life, it takes awhile for the young ones to gain their voice. Though, there are those that come out of the uterus already ranting and raving.

 

[UnconTROLLed]

To the point above a dozen + people were shorted @ least 4 hours last week . All reported, management was advised ,union knew and followed up. Yeasterday came and went . No green checks!. What did I say earlier inept or just plain arrogance ? Its Christmas and I am sure the the manager will get his bonus but he could not even take care of the workers. I will hit reply now because I am getting more furious by the minute and may say somethng that needs to be moderated.

Here in NE, all payroll shortages will not be addressed until after Jan 1

 

[Old Man Jingles]

Here in NE, all payroll shortages will not be addressed until after Jan 1

Questionable practice; not capturing hours on the day when actually incurred means these hours don't show up on the Operating Report.
The hours only show up on the monthly cost report. Look good for 21 days a month and not as good one day a month.
That's just asking to be abused.

 

[PT Stewie]

Operating report ? Monthly cost report ? Who gives a flying flapjack ? Take care of the people ! Because when you get down to it they are the company.

 

[UnconTROLLed]

My check was short 6.5 hours this week. This goes along with another full-timer missing several hours of overtime and time bonuses. Many, many shortages in our building on all shifts.

Business as usual.

 

[packageguy]

this happend to me to. Just tell them the next time this
happends i will call corporate, and let them know whats going.
since that time i never had a problem again. Remember- it's your money you earned

 

[PT Stewie]

My check was short 6.5 hours this week. This goes along with another full-timer missing several hours of overtime and time bonuses. Many, many shortages in our building on all shifts.

Business as usual.

File a greivance make them pay the penalty Shorting people and not taking care of it is inexcusable. I have a copy of one in my pocket that was filed for all the 22.3 people shorted in our building .Its been a week and some have not recieved it. The people not taking care of this derserve to loose their job. I just got off the phone with a single mom with young children who UPS has not made whole yet ( after a whole pay period) and the manager had the gall to to confront her for filing . What a piece of dung.I hope his Christmas will be Merry after he stuck his people. He had the chance to make it right but what did he do ?

 

[UnconTROLLed]

File a greivance make them pay the penalty Shorting people and not taking care of it is inexcusable. I have a copy of one in my pocket that was filed for all the 22.3 people shorted in our building .Its been a week and some have not recieved it. The people not taking care of this derserve to loose their job. I just got off the phone with a single mom with young children who UPS has not made whole yet ( after a whole pay period) and the manager had the gall to to confront her for filing . What a piece of dung.I hope his Christmas will be Merry after he stuck his people. He had the chance to make it right but what did he do ?

It's the entire corporation. Many , many seasonals and even regular employees don't track their time. The supervisors and managers grow a comfort zone as to who checks and who does not and steals accordingly. This is especially a problem when MIP , stock prices, 4th q earnings lead to desperate grabs for money at all levels....

 

[Kae3106]

It is absolutely unacceptable to short time that was worked. Ask your sup for a PDM (payroll datamart) history. Most of them have the ability to pull these up themselves and do not have to wait for the payroll department to send it to them. It can be exported as an Excel file. It will show each day, start time, end time, work activity, rate paid, hours worked, etc. It will be in hundredths of an hour, not minutes. This is different from a payroll history that shows your total wages and taxes.

I would like to believe that no one is intentionally taking paid time away from employees. However, I have seen plenty of Time and Labor adjustments submitted by operators who do not understand the difference between minutes and hundredths. Example: for some reason you have no timecard for Monday and an adjustment is submitted to payroll. Adjustment are supposed to be submitted in hundredths. Let's say you worked from 5:15am - 10:45am. This should be entered as 0525 - 1075 and you would be paid for 5.50 hours. If the operator enters the adjustment as 0515 to 1045, you would be paid for 5.30 hours and would be short 0.2 hours. Payroll has to enter the times as they are submitted on the adjustment and can not try to guess if the person meant minutes or hundredths.

I don't know what the timecards look like at the centers but all of this information can definitely be obtained via PDM or asking payroll for the detail.

 

[castor915]

I have approved hundreds of timecards. I have investigated many instances of employees claiming to have been shorted hours or pay rates. Sometimes the error was on UPS part. Sometimes the error was actually the employees.
I have never "taken away hours" from a timecard or changed OT (I actually have no way of doing that in the system).

So some evil sups "Took away" 22 hours from a weekly paycheck? In any operation I have worked in, that would be an outstanding way for a management person to become an unemployed person. Not buying it.

I would say it is very easy to believe.... Much like my full time sup that just got fired for doing just that at my building.
Had to call the corporate number and tell them how he was doing it, over 200 hours dumped on other shifts or areas.

I find it hard to believe that there was 22 hour shortage on his check. That is a 40% shortage.

Try getting fired for being over payed 6 hours and then after 3 months come back to work when the union got my job back.
Then over payed almost a extra 80 hours in a month and a half when i came back, all documented against the full-time sup above.
Going out of his way to get me fired for getting extra time, all the way to giving me a 45 hour vacation check i didnt have coming to me he submitted.

 

[PT Stewie]

The saga continues at our location. The company actually paid the penalties on the last batch of shortages I mentioned earlier in the thread. Got a call this morning some more shortages are showing up, Call me kookie but it seems deliberate. This scenario is troubleing ,that is spin language for what the ####

 

[UnconTROLLed]

The saga continues at our location. The company actually paid the penalties on the last batch of shortages I mentioned earlier in the thread. Got a call this morning some more shortages are showing up, Call me kookie but it seems deliberate. This scenario is troubleing ,that is spin language for what the ####

Same here, my last 4 checks have been wrong and all to avoid paying OT. They back-pay as an adj in straight time and it's off the books. Not only myself but several FT and PT employees. no grievances paid at all in the past month, sad is the corruption.

 

[PT Stewie]

Hmm.... I wonder if any management people were shorted on their bonus checks....... or shorted a few shares of stock, or whatever they get......... I wonder

 

[menotyou]

It is absolutely unacceptable to short time that was worked. Ask your sup for a PDM (payroll datamart) history. Most of them have the ability to pull these up themselves and do not have to wait for the payroll department to send it to them. It can be exported as an Excel file. It will show each day, start time, end time, work activity, rate paid, hours worked, etc. It will be in hundredths of an hour, not minutes. This is different from a payroll history that shows your total wages and taxes.

I would like to believe that no one is intentionally taking paid time away from employees. However, I have seen plenty of Time and Labor adjustments submitted by operators who do not understand the difference between minutes and hundredths. Example: for some reason you have no timecard for Monday and an adjustment is submitted to payroll. Adjustment are supposed to be submitted in hundredths. Let's say you worked from 5:15am - 10:45am. This should be entered as 0525 - 1075 and you would be paid for 5.50 hours. If the operator enters the adjustment as 0515 to 1045, you would be paid for 5.30 hours and would be short 0.2 hours. Payroll has to enter the times as they are submitted on the adjustment and can not try to guess if the person meant minutes or hundredths.

I don't know what the timecards look like at the centers but all of this information can definitely be obtained via PDM or asking payroll for the detail.

I watched my Center Manager get escorted out by **** ****.
He was fired for intentionally shorting hours. He actually deleted a time card for someone who was delivering all day. The guy caught it and the manager offered to pay out of pocket. This was about 4 months before the center manager was escorted out with his parcel of personal effects.

 

[icedtheater]

I always check my time as it's wrong more than half of the time. Here is one check that was very wrong, this week should of had only $16.10 and $24.15 hours on it as I was doing seasonal driving. Yet I was paid at these following rates, Needless to say I also was shorted that week.
$11.50
$13.00
$16.10
$17.25 OT
$19.50 OT
$24.15 OT

I've never worked for a company that screwed up our pay so often

 

[MikeGall]

I work doubles like crazy during peak. The check I got the second week of December was short 8 to 10 hours that were at time and a half. I have yet to see that money.

 

[brownIEman]

I would say it is very easy to believe.... Much like my full time sup that just got fired for doing just that at my building.
Had to call the corporate number and tell them how he was doing it, over 200 hours dumped on other shifts or areas.

No, we are talking about two very different things. If your sup "dumped" hours onto other shifts and areas, he was hiding hours in his operation by charging them to other operations to make his production look better. Those people would still be paid. That is very different from shorting one person 40% of their hours in one week intentionally. Both are integrity violations and will get you fired, because the organization places high value on integrity.

Don't believe that last? OK, but if you don't, please explain why it was the organization fired your sup...