Florida Republicans pass anti-union bill, reject Democrats’ attempts to soften its blow

[DriveInDriveOut]

“If the elected officials pushing this garbage actually represented working people, instead of greedy corporations, it would never occur to them in the first place to go on the attack against ordinary families,” said Jim Shurling, President of Teamsters Joint Council 75. “

Typical left wing gaslighting.

It's the teacher's union that is on the attack against ordinary families. The union President said parents should have no say at all in what their children are taught. Then she said teachers should keep children's gender changes secret from the parents.

These people just flat out lie to push their sick ideology. All union members need to take notice, the leftists will destroy any support we have from the public if the leadership keeps supporting these radical ideologies.

 

[nWo]

Typical left wing gaslighting.

It's the teacher's union that is on the attack against ordinary families. The union President said parents should have no say at all in what their children are taught. Then she said teachers should keep children's gender changes secret from the parents.

These people just flat out lie to push their sick ideology. All union members need to take notice, the leftists will destroy any support we have from the public if the leadership keeps supporting these radical ideologies.

Spew your anti-labor nonsense at a union hall. See how far you get.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Spew your anti-labor nonsense at a union hall. See how far you get.

I'm sorry facts hurt your feelings sweetheart.

 

[nWo]

I'll stand with the Teamsters. Y'all can stand with Desantis.

 

[UnionStrong]

I'll stand with the Teamsters. Y'all can stand with Desantis.

 

[nWo]

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Feel free to form an actual argument against the Teamsters

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

I'll stand with the Teamsters. Y'all can stand with Desantis.

Woke mind virus.

Leftist got his programming to cry fake tears, and he came on here pretending to care about unions.

But in the end he blew his load, and wept about Desantis. It's all political. Push his ideology, that's all that matters.

These radicals are why union support is falling.

 

[UnionStrong]

Feel free to form an actual argument against the Teamsters

 

[nWo]

Woke mind virus.

Leftist got his programming to cry fake tears, and he came on here pretending to care about unions.

But in the end he blew his load, and wept about Desantis. It's all political. Push his ideology, that's all that matters.

These radicals are why union support is falling.

Lol. Feel free to form an argument against the Teamsters.

 

[UnionStrong]

Lol. Feel free to form an argument against the Teamsters.

 

[nWo]

So you admit you have no argument. Cool.

 

[UnionStrong]

So you admit you have no argument. Cool.

You have no argument. You just make stuff up. You’re destroying the union with your woke nonsense, and racism. How was the hot pocket?

 

[nWo]

You have no argument. You just make stuff up. You’re destroying the union with your woke nonsense, and racism. How was the hot pocket?

Form an argument. Tell me what you have against the Teamsters in Florida?

 

[UnionStrong]

Form an argument. Tell me what you have against the Teamsters in Florida?

Tell me why you pretend to be a teamster? Wait, why am I wasting my time on you? See ya.

 

[nWo]

Tell me why you pretend to be a teamster? Wait, why am I wasting my time on you? See ya.

You are a scab.

 

[Redtag]

Who’s talking about union busting? Negotiating against a politician who will give you whatever you want if you scream out enough is not the same as what Sean Obrian is doing right now.

Before UPS I was a public sector union employee and no offense this whole talking point is conservative anti union nonsense, they fought us tooth and nail and every damn thing had to go to arbitration. The pay and benefits are better at UPS that's why I am here.

The REAL reason they dont like public sector unions is that they make up the overwhelming majority of the unionized workforce.. destroying the public sector unions is a great way to weaken the labor movement. They can take out 60 plus percent of union workers by doing this.

Seriously, I can not understand how any union member can justify taking away the bargaining rights of another union membership.. Sad in my opinion.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Before UPS I was a public sector union employee and no offense this whole talking point is conservative anti union nonsense, they fought us tooth and nail and every damn thing had to go to arbitration. The pay and benefits are better at UPS that's why I am here.

The REAL reason they dont like public sector unions is that they make up the overwhelming majority of the unionized workforce.. destroying the public sector unions is a great way to weaken the labor movement. They can take out 60 plus percent of union workers by doing this.

Seriously, I can not understand how any union member can justify taking away the bargaining rights of another union membership.. Sad in my opinion.

Well, if you bother to read, you would know I did not.

 

[Redtag]

Well, if you bother to read, you would know I did not.

I grabbed one of the comments on here for context, I picked yours because I have read your comments in other threads and it sounds like you have been more involved in the union than some of the others in this thread, anyway I did go back and read all your comments in this thread and while maybe you did not call for removing the rights to collective bargaining as some others on here, you did excuse some aspects of the bill that are an obvious attempt to make it difficult for unions they dont like to collect dues while carving out special privileges for the conservative leaning ones such as the police union.

You seem like you are knowledgeable with the process, you must have seen first hand how the union avoids a Republican leaning NLRB, how unions try to avoid many right wing judges. One aspect of the conservative platform is reducing the power of labor unions, how can we as union members get behind that.

One of the things that really bothers me about modern politics is this intense tribalism, we dont have to agree with everything our favored party does, I know I certainly dont agree with Democrat leaders on every single issue.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

you did excuse some aspects of the bill that are an obvious attempt to make it difficult for unions they dont like to collect dues while carving out special privileges for the conservative leaning ones such as the police union.

Should the taxpayers be responsible for the administrative cost of union membership fee deductions though?

 

[Thebrownblob]

I grabbed one of the comments on here for context, I picked yours because I have read your comments in other threads and it sounds like you have been more involved in the union than some of the others in this thread, anyway I did go back and read all your comments in this thread and while maybe you did not call for removing the rights to collective bargaining as some others on here, you did excuse some aspects of the bill that are an obvious attempt to make it difficult for unions they dont like to collect dues while carving out special privileges for the conservative leaning ones such as the police union.

You seem like you are knowledgeable with the process, you must have seen first hand how the union avoids a Republican leaning NLRB, how unions try to avoid many right wing judges. One aspect of the conservative platform is reducing the power of labor unions, how can we as union members get behind that.

One of the things that really bothers me about modern politics is this intense tribalism, we dont have to agree with everything our favored party does, I know I certainly dont agree with Democrat leaders on every single issue.

Understandable and I am nowhere near tribal on any aspect. A lot of this conversation was about card check. Naturally, it’s much more convenient especially for the member for the dues to come directly out of your check. And that’s usually negotiated item in a contract. The main idea here was that not having it destroys the ability for unions to exist, which I don’t really agree with. It makes it more inconvenient yes. Florida taking away card check from some of the contracts does not mean they will not be a union. And I think I stated I’m certain there will be lawsuits to decide if what they did was legal or not.

As to whether or not public unions should exist, my opinion, is everyone should have the right to have a voice and respect in the workplace.
It’s important to remember that when one side has too much power in negotiations, it gets away from the main point of representation, which is fairness, so that both sides can flourish in the life of a contract.
The public pension, issue is a good example of what happens when politicians kick the can down the road for the next group, leaving the taxpayers on the hook for promises made that can’t be kept. And the members retirement shaky. My main thesis is that public union contracts should be negotiated differently, and not with the group of politicians, who may only have political aspirations as their motives. It eventually destroys both sides.

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