Florida Republicans pass anti-union bill, reject Democrats’ attempts to soften its blow
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nWo
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DriveInDriveOut
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Unions need to take notice.
If you keep supporting the extremist radical ideologies of the Democrat party, you will lose the support of voters, and there will be more laws like this passed.
If you keep supporting the extremist radical ideologies of the Democrat party, you will lose the support of voters, and there will be more laws like this passed.
PT Car Washer
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Passed by Republican law makers.
DriveInDriveOut
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Yes, there is back lash against the extremist radical ideologies of the Democrat party, and unions will be a casualty of that if they keep supporting it.
DriveInDriveOut
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I'm willing to hear you out my good friend.
Please explain why you agree with the teacher's unions that pornography should be in elementary schools, and teachers should keep children's "gender identity" secret from their parents.
Use your words and explain why you think the teacher's union is right about those things.
eats packages
Deranged lunatic
After what happened to this city I generally believe the idea that narratives become reality via social conditioning. There is no real way to combat it. Be careful what you wish for.
Sissy Brown Short Shorts
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Best state ever.
I have NOT been lurking
Eat. Sleep. Work. Jork.
Not until Florida Man is removed
nWo
Well-Known Member
Understandable and I am nowhere near tribal on any aspect. A lot of this conversation was about card check. Naturally, it’s much more convenient especially for the member for the dues to come directly out of your check. And that’s usually negotiated item in a contract. The main idea here was that not having it destroys the ability for unions to exist, which I don’t really agree with. It makes it more inconvenient yes. Florida taking away card check from some of the contracts does not mean they will not be a union. And I think I stated I’m certain there will be lawsuits to decide if what they did was legal or not.
As to whether or not public unions should exist, my opinion, is everyone should have the right to have a voice and respect in the workplace.
It’s important to remember that when one side has too much power in negotiations, it gets away from the main point of representation, which is fairness, so that both sides can flourish in the life of a contract.
The public pension, issue is a good example of what happens when politicians kick the can down the road for the next group, leaving the taxpayers on the hook for promises made that can’t be kept. And the members retirement shaky. My main thesis is that public union contracts should be negotiated differently, and not with the group of politicians, who may only have political aspirations as their motives. It eventually destroys both sides.
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Then let's give more power to the Teamsters and less to politicians. Rob Desantis is wrong. Tucker Carlson is wrong. The Teamsters are right.
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In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
BIG differences between the "Public Sector Unions" and "The International Brotherhood of Teamsters". It would be fair to say that a vast majority of the IBT members are conservatives and vote accordingly no matter what their leadership says. @DriveInDriveOut has got it right by suggesting that this over the board WOKE agenda is going to hurt all the Unions. There is a thing called "Stereotyping" the left thinks that the average Teamster is nothing but a "Dumb Truck Driver" because they only have a High School diploma. This fallacy is far from the truth at UPS, most of the UPS Veterans have college experience, some graduates and majors, some are probably smarter than most of our board members. That was all they were hiring in the 70's, 80's and 90's, me included, the ones that stayed around after 4 years were at a pay level that payed far better than an entry job in their selected majors, so they stayed signed a full time bid and made it a career choice... before the two tier concessions contracts.
Any political endorsement from the Union Leadership has to be taken with a grain of salt. The days of following like sheep any suggestions from any power structure are over...the Internet and mass media access has killed any goose stepping to the beat that is currently popular. Trump did try to court the blue collar vote and most of us (Union Types) voted for him, Biden was just a figurehead (boring) but he got in so we have to live with him another 1 1/2 years. He has already did his damage and will be pretty much neutered till the next election. Individually we all would be better off with Trump was still in office, it still vexes me that my own personal assets were controlled by the incidents during the 2020 race. If that overworked, tired police officer did not make an error in judgement in arresting that drug addict and the following political gamesmanship by the Democrats my own retirement funds would probably be 25 percent higher and inflation would be close to normal. Also in the aftermath a lot of innocent people got killed or hurt during these so-called peaceful demonstrations, property damaged and more caused more racial hate. The more the Democrats try to legislate to correct racial and other minorities perceived injustices the more it drives a wedge into the concept of being created equal and being judged on our merits and actions.. not on our appearance.
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Redtag
Part on order, ok to drive
I think the florida taxpayers should be far more concerned with the cost of these Disney lawsuits. The possible admin costs to transfer union dues is peanuts compared to that debacle
Redtag
Part on order, ok to drive
Understandable and I am nowhere near tribal on any aspect. A lot of this conversation was about card check. Naturally, it’s much more convenient especially for the member for the dues to come directly out of your check. And that’s usually negotiated item in a contract. The main idea here was that not having it destroys the ability for unions to exist, which I don’t really agree with. It makes it more inconvenient yes. Florida taking away card check from some of the contracts does not mean they will not be a union. And I think I stated I’m certain there will be lawsuits to decide if what they did was legal or not.
As to whether or not public unions should exist, my opinion, is everyone should have the right to have a voice and respect in the workplace.
It’s important to remember that when one side has too much power in negotiations, it gets away from the main point of representation, which is fairness, so that both sides can flourish in the life of a contract.
The public pension, issue is a good example of what happens when politicians kick the can down the road for the next group, leaving the taxpayers on the hook for promises made that can’t be kept. And the members retirement shaky. My main thesis is that public union contracts should be negotiated differently, and not with the group of politicians, who may only have political aspirations as their motives. It eventually destroys both sides.
ec 201716 pensions when states default
This Commentary discusses how a severe fiscal crisis at the state level could impact the interests of the state’s public pension holders. Drawing lessons from the relevant laws, historical precedents, and the case of Arkansas after its default in 1933, I argue that in spite of the protections...
How Politicians Hurt Your Public Pension Plan
But... we know why the Florida Republicans want to end card check. I think we all know it has nothing to do with concern over the taxpayers paying some miniscule amount of admin costs.
All pensions have been under pressure for sometime and public or private union or not any attempt at reform thar reduces benefits is met with anger. No leaders public or private want to deal with that. Look at what happened right here at UPS with my IAM pension..
No more 30 and out. Penalties if you leave before 65, you should hear the anger amoung the membership but that is the reality that pension funds are facing public or private.
Anyway, I just ask you guys to step back from the politics for a minute and reason for yourselves why certain actions are being taken in Florida and elsewhere, if your honest with yourselves you will see that these attacks on unions and Disney are nothing more than political retribution towards gov. Desantis perceived "woke" enemies
Redtag
Part on order, ok to drive
The unions can't back the right wing, it's impossible... limiting or ending collective bargaining is literally a core conservative belief!
nWo
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Trust me. The Teamsters in Florida do not have too much power.
The passage of this bill is estimated to cost tax payers $903,000.
Wally
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They fund today's Democrats elections
DriveInDriveOut
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You didn't answer the question.
Is there a reason why?
DriveInDriveOut
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