Forcing Thanksgiving Holiday Work Is The Beginning Of The End

[BakerMayfield2018]

Yep.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Article 60 Sec.1 says it's a Holiday. How can the union let this happen!

They declared an Impasse,on this matter.

 

[BakerMayfield2018]

im·passe
ˈimˌpas,imˈpas/
noun

1. a situation in which no progress is possible, especially because of disagreement; a deadlock.
   "the current political impasse"
   synonyms:deadlock, dead end, stalemate, standoff; More
   

 

[Catatonic]

I'm not working the Friday after Thanksgiving ... they can just kiss my butt!

 

[BakerMayfield2018]

I had to google it. Lol.

 

[Brownslave688]

Article 60 Sec.1 says it's a Holiday. How can the union let this happen!

It's still a holiday and you will be paid accordingly. This isn't rocket surgery people.

 

[TooTechie]

Hello and thank you for repeating this thread yet again.

 

[superballs63]

It's still a holiday and you will be paid accordingly. This isn't rocket surgery people.

What is rocket surgery? Is that the opposite of brain science?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I had to google it. Lol.

Impasse or butt ??

 

[28down]

You all need to show up make them pay you 8 and don't go home.dont take the 05

 

[brownmonster]

I'm starting to embrace the new concept of working that day. Of my 7 pickups only 1 is open and its on route at about 10 in the morning. The rest of the day will be cruise control at $100 per.

 

[youllbefine]

I'm starting to embrace the new concept of working that day. Of my 7 pickups only 1 is open and its on route at about 10 in the morning. The rest of the day will be cruise control at $100 per.

Same with me! But it is $66 an hour plus 8hrs of holiday pay! Your pay stub will not show $100 an hour!

 

[upsgrunt]

Same with me! But it is $66 an hour plus 8hrs of holiday pay! Your pay stub will not show $100 an hour!

What's 66 + 34?
Does it really matter what the stub won't show?

 

[superballs63]

Same with me! But it is $66 an hour plus 8hrs of holiday pay! Your pay stub will not show $100 an hour!

Splitting hairs, no? 8 holiday hours at $34/hr added to 66 plus the 34 equals 100. Who cares what your paycheck shows??

They have a sign up sheet in our feeder office for anyone who wants the day off. I signed it, but will probably be working. Pulling a set of doubles at time and a half all day plus 8 holiday hours?? Yeah, I think I'll survive. I've already had to work Sundays in feeders , which bothers me more than some BS holiday. Black Friday is no more a holiday than arbor day or flag day. Only difference being that UPS allows(allowed) it. Probably to give drivers time to digest their free turkeys. Since the free birds are gone, so is the extta day off

 

[SandBagger]

Thorny enough to get elected and re-elected by record margins. Feels very satisfying but you wouldn't understand that as you're firmly planted on the sidelines.
Now this may be really embarassing to you but the CRT says "named" not legal as is clearly posted by touchdown scoring Bubblehead in post 389. You quoted that post (and you call out my reading comprehension).

Come on man, there's lots of feck in my debate...
My interpretation is based on how the process works and what would convince an arbitrator (likely never get that far) with an issue that's been written over 40 years ago. Not much chance of anyone who negotiated that language being able to testify, so then bargaining notes, available to the colluders, but not BC lawyers, are used.
But don't let those pesky facts get in your way Sandstorm, I'm sure you'll blow the house down.

Sorry Boss, I got to go see a man about a horse. Be back next week.

Alrighty gamey, point for your side. Around 1am I get a little fuzzy and missed the fact that the CRT was the supplement bubbles quoted. Hate to disappoint you though, but I don't feel even a tinge of embarassment.

I do appreciate your lavishing me with your dazzling interpretation of your self-worth and obvious appeal to the masses though. Certainly humility abounds.


Now I won't disagree that historical documents are likely scarce, they have a tendency to evaporate faster than a Teamster pension fund. I also agree that ancient "negotiators" are equally scarce. Sadly, for the Central Region then, is that they are more deeply gigged by their alleged defenders than some other locals with more firm language and discernable intent.

I'll also offer that Bubblehead's understanding of the meaning of the "required" clause as it relates to the overall original intent could be a difficult argument.

Unfortunately, you seem to think that the only recourse an employee has is the fabled grievance procedure. Note that all matters large and small do not end in reconcilliation through this process, and dependent upon the nature of the beast, it may eventually be slain by more authoritarian means.

When you finish your date with the man and horse, please take a moment and share with your numerous fans here and elsewhere the language I have asked you (or anyone) to produce that condemns the various supplements to servitude in this matter. You could be on a roll...You certainly got a point for proving the Central Region was likely tossed under the bus.


Also ponder the meaning of the "personal hoilday", and a valid comparison of it to the "legal holiday" some supplements appear to enjoy. I'm a little unclear how a personal holiday can be awarded and irrevocable by virtue of a signed approved request, yet a legal holiday can be revoked. It might make more sense to me if I could find some defined criteria for application or denial of the "legal" benefit, but as my reading comprehension is apparently dwarfed by your own, see if you can help me out.

As for where I'm "planted", that's yet to be seen. Keep poking though. I grow best when the soil is well turned.

Thanks mucho.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Article 60 Sec.1 says it's a Holiday. How can the union let this happen!

The Union cannot tell the company how to run their business. Both the Company and Union realize that e-commerce has changed the way that we do business and while working Black Friday will most likely not make that much of a difference it will show our major shippers (Amazon) that we do not intend to have a repeat of Peak 2013.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

You all need to show up make them pay you 8 and don't go home.dont take the 05

Normally I would disagree with this and take the Code 05, but if they want to make this a regular work day I will gladly work a full day. Oh, wait....I'm on vacation....never mind.

I'm starting to embrace the new concept of working that day. Of my 7 pickups only 1 is open and its on route at about 10 in the morning. The rest of the day will be cruise control at $100 per.

Of my 28 pickups, including an MBE, Staples and UPS Store, only 2 are closed. All of my major bulk stops, including Walmart, are open. Code 05 will not be an option on my area.

 

[upsgrunt]

Everyone in the free world knows you are on vacation next week. Repeating it over and over and over will have no further effect. Let it go

 

[superballs63]

Normally I would disagree with this and take the Code 05, but if they want to make this a regular work day I will gladly work a full day. Oh, wait....I'm on vacation....never mind.

You're not going to volunteer to work so that a junior driver can stay home with his family?

 

[bleedinbrown58]

Normally I would disagree with this and take the Code 05, but if they want to make this a regular work day I will gladly work a full day. Oh, wait....I'm on vacation....never mind.