BigBrown609
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There are two Article 22 spots up for bid in our center. A FT driver with top rate bid on it and got it. Does he take a pay cut with that or will he make driver rate doing that too?
FT driver to Article 22
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UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Close to an $8/hr pay cut.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
This depends on the job and the drivers seniority. We have a guy that's art 22 car wash and spotter. He took a minimal pay cut because he had like 37 years in.
Cementups
Box Monkey
Seniority means nothing with his pay. It's the jobs in the combo he bid.
C
chuchu
Guest
Only if you're in progression.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
If what you bid were two inside jobs then years of service is everything. Where as my inside rate would be under $20 someone with 30+ years in would have an inside rate almost equal to drivers full scale pay.
Yep and the overtime really sucks.
'Lord Brown's bidding'
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IOW, $15-20k/year. My last full year as an art 22.3 I made $48k. The next year I was up to $75k, although I didn't start driving until the end of April!
saintrick
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Depends on whether it is a 22.2 or 22.3 job.
For 22.3 jobs.
The following language was added to article 41 of the NMA in 2002.
Full-time employees who bid into a full-time inside job covered by this Section will be paid in accordance with their full-time seniority date. Full-time employees with two (2)or more years of seniority who bid into a full-time inside job will be paid the top current rate of the classification.
In 2008 and 2013 the language changed to 3 years(2008) and 4 years(2013).
browniehound
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Actually, this is not entirely true. Its true if its a 22.3 job where the combo jobs are both inside work. However, if the 22.3 job involves air driving its a split rate. You get the rate for air driving and second rate for the inside part of the job is determined by what your pay as a part-timer would be.
A guy with 37 years of PT seniority is going to be making a pretty significant wage. I'm guessing it would be very close to top-rate of a FT driver because we are talking about 37 years worth of raises this guy has.
I only know this because its how I started at UPS. My job was evening air driving and then midnight hub. I got about $14 for the air driving and $9.50 for the hub because the $9.50 was what I was making as a PT. Another guy with the exact same job was getting $14 for air driving and $15.50 for the hub job because that's what he was making as a part timer before he took the 22.3.
Babagounj
Strength through joy
My story ;
Year 1, 22.3 combo.
Had a in/out got paid at my p/t rate for both .
Move to another in/in at a different building, paid the same .
Moved back to my first building , in/out got paid at my p/t rate for inside & top air driver for outside .
Moved to a in/in & lost my higher p/t rate ($5/hr ) , now only paid at air driver top rate .
Same applies to any one coming from Package car into combo .
Year 1, 22.3 combo.
Had a in/out got paid at my p/t rate for both .
Move to another in/in at a different building, paid the same .
Moved back to my first building , in/out got paid at my p/t rate for inside & top air driver for outside .
Moved to a in/in & lost my higher p/t rate ($5/hr ) , now only paid at air driver top rate .
Same applies to any one coming from Package car into combo .
