I love trains. Used to take them all the time in the Northeast. Took one last year halfway across Ukraine. But the real necessity is local transport. In Europe many cities have trams. Mini trains. If they are convenient and cheap people will use them. If you have to hike half a mile to use one you most likely won't.
Global warming
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rod
Retired 23 years
What I meant by cheap was if you have a flight from here to Mpls and your next leg is on Delta the fare is fairly cheap as compared to if to change to AA or one of the other airlines in Mpls. Also if you just fly from here to Mpls its really expensive. The airlines have just about as many different rates as UPS.
Old Man Jingles
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rod
Retired 23 years
We do---about 3 or 4 times a year to Texas
LarryBird
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rod
Retired 23 years
Apparently you don't fly much. If you are lucky enough to actually get a flight that is on time they pack you in like sardines---that is if they haven't over booked the flight and you can't get on anyway. Flying sucks.Yeah, I miss the good old days of months long trips on ocean liners crossing the Atlantic, and driving across the country to California on wagon trains - getting to Europe or California from the east coast in 5 hours blows.
progress, amirite?
Slow and steady...
LarryBird
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Well, you could always pay for an upgrade to business or 1st class if the lack of room for a few hours is that big of an issue for you. The vast majority of flights are on time and half empty, so I really don't understand your other complaints.
When you consider the alternative, which is driving, then I'd say your above complaints are minor. Driving anything more than like 6 hours is the absolute worst. Especially when you compare that an 8 hour drive is like a 1 hour flight.
newfie
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sounds like the key is to fly somewhere no one wants to go to
rod
Retired 23 years
Fly from Minneapolis to Dallas. I guarantee EVERY flight (year around) is full to the point of being over booked. I've flown it dozens of times and its always full. I still say you haven't flown much if you still enjoy it. I'm old enough to remember when you actually had some leg room when flying. Hell - I used to fly stand-by and never had any problem.
LarryBird
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I don't enjoy it, but I recognize that it's much better than the alternative.
You can't mount an argument that it isn't, at least not without planting your tongue firmly in your cheek, that is.
Long drives vs flying = big win for planes
Extremely long voyage vs flying = bigger win for planes
badpal
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Why they go there?
moreluck
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LarryBird
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I'll just leave this here:
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Future State Podcast: The Future State with Richard A. Clarke
(Episode #22)
Future State is a podcast hosted by Richard Clarke, who's served in both democratic and republican administrations, in the realm of national security. The podcast is about the future of our country, and where/how politics, technology, and national security intersect moving forward, and each episode involves a different topic affected by them.
Episode 22 is about the future of our planet. It's mostly a talk about global warming with guest Gina McCarthy.
Best podcast going right now. Every episode has been fantastic. Richard Clarke has been one of the people I've looked up to for a long time now, since I became aware of him, in the months after 9/11. Brilliant guy.
I highly recommend anyone who is interested in politics listen to every episode. We certainly have a lot of listening time to kill at work, so this will fill some of that time if you're looking for something good. Not a bad episode in the bunch, which is impressive over 2 seasons, and 22 episodes thus far. I look forward to it every week.
