Ground to absorb Express

[bacha29]

Amazing that you read it all.

Here's the difference between a Ground contractor and the likes of you and Denial 59. You were employees with little or nothing invested . If there was an employment separation all you lost was a paycheck. As a contractor working under a contract that bound XG to absolutely nothing you could lose every dime you have invested at a moments notice with no prior warning....... And I saw that happen to a number of contractors many of whom for simply standing their ground in an effort to make that company abide by it's own terms.

Now the longer you are a contractor the more money you are required to place at risk but still operate under contractual terms whereby that one million bucks you have at risk today is no more secure than what you had invested in the venture when you began Therefore, you're always on the lookout for that completely dramatic and completely unforeseen turn of events that could wipe out every cent of money you have invested and for some it is or was every cent they had.
As a result I too am always on the lookout for new developments that could in the near term or latter term become an emerging threat to the security of the large and growing larger sums of money contractors are putting on the table.
Why do I do it? Understand the basic premise when it comes to X Ground contracting. The whole damn thing is a lie and I saw guys lose their house and their marriage's breakup over that lie.

 

[bbsam]

Here's the difference between a Ground contractor and the likes of you and Denial 59. You were employees with little or nothing invested . If there was an employment separation all you lost was a paycheck. As a contractor working under a contract that bound XG to absolutely nothing you could lose every dime you have invested at a moments notice with no prior warning....... And I saw that happen to a number of contractors many of whom for simply standing their ground in an effort to make that company abide by it's own terms.

Now the longer you are a contractor the more money you are required to place at risk but still operate under contractual terms whereby that one million bucks you have at risk today is no more secure than what you had invested in the venture when you began Therefore, you're always on the lookout for that completely dramatic and completely unforeseen turn of events that could wipe out every cent of money you have invested and for some it is or was every cent they had.
As a result I too am always on the lookout for new developments that could in the near term or latter term become an emerging threat to the security of the large and growing larger sums of money contractors are putting on the table.
Why do I do it? Understand the basic premise when it comes to X Ground contracting. The whole damn thing is a lie and I saw guys lose their house and their marriage's breakup over that lie.

You weirdo.

 

[floridays]

You weirdo.

Him too?

 

[59 Dano]

Here's the difference between a Ground contractor and the likes of you and Denial 59. You were employees with little or nothing invested . If there was an employment separation all you lost was a paycheck. As a contractor working under a contract that bound XG to absolutely nothing you could lose every dime you have invested at a moments notice with no prior warning....... And I saw that happen to a number of contractors many of whom for simply standing their ground in an effort to make that company abide by it's own terms.

Now the longer you are a contractor the more money you are required to place at risk but still operate under contractual terms whereby that one million bucks you have at risk today is no more secure than what you had invested in the venture when you began Therefore, you're always on the lookout for that completely dramatic and completely unforeseen turn of events that could wipe out every cent of money you have invested and for some it is or was every cent they had.
As a result I too am always on the lookout for new developments that could in the near term or latter term become an emerging threat to the security of the large and growing larger sums of money contractors are putting on the table.
Why do I do it? Understand the basic premise when it comes to X Ground contracting. The whole damn thing is a lie and I saw guys lose their house and their marriage's breakup over that lie.

I'm sure our resident Ground contractors -who all seem to be doing fine- appreciate your hysteria.

 

[Cactus]

I'm sure our resident Ground contractors -who all seem to be doing fine- appreciate your hysteria.

Still wearing the rose colored glasses I see.

 

[bacha29]

Still wearing the rose colored glasses I see.

If Denial 59 and the others want to revert to personal attacks that's fine because one fact still remains..... The needs of the market will always come before the needs of the contractor. Fedex Ground is in business to do one thing and one thing only. That is to serve the needs of the market . It never has and never will serve the needs of the contractor.
The dangers and risks that contractors see out there on a daily basis pose little or no threat to them . Why? Because they can see them. It's the ones they can't see that pose the danger.
The transportation market is in a constant state of flux and fought over by several powerful competitors using any means at their disposal to gain the advantage.
Now in that turmoil lies the seeds of change. What I try to do is to seek out and identify possible origins of change.
I don't have to do this. I don't owe anybody anything . But these people they call contractors are constantly being put in a position of having no other choice but to blindly put more and more money at risk . But every time there is a new restructuring of operations which anymore is on a annual basis....THEY"RE ALWAYS THE LAST TO KNOW and are always the ones most directly impacted. They deserve the respect that investment entitles them to.
Or is it that they've been beaten down for so long that they just don't know any better or for that much even care anymore?

 

[bbsam]

If Denial 59 and the others want to revert to personal attacks that's fine because one fact still remains..... The needs of the market will always come before the needs of the contractor. Fedex Ground is in business to do one thing and one thing only. That is to serve the needs of the market . It never has and never will serve the needs of the contractor.
The dangers and risks that contractors see out there on a daily basis pose little or no threat to them . Why? Because they can see them. It's the ones they can't see that pose the danger.
The transportation market is in a constant state of flux and fought over by several powerful competitors using any means at their disposal to gain the advantage.
Now in that turmoil lies the seeds of change. What I try to do is to seek out and identify possible origins of change.
I don't have to do this. I don't owe anybody anything . But these people they call contractors are constantly being put in a position of having no other choice but to blindly put more and more money at risk . But every time there is a new restructuring of operations which anymore is on a annual basis....THEY"RE ALWAYS THE LAST TO KNOW and are always the ones most directly impacted. They deserve the respect that investment entitles them to.
Or is it that they've been beaten down for so long that they just don't know any better or for that much even care anymore?

So sayeth the “day one contractor”. Code name: Daywalker.

 

[Exec32]

Here's the difference between a Ground contractor and the likes of you and Denial 59. You were employees with little or nothing invested . If there was an employment separation all you lost was a paycheck. As a contractor working under a contract that bound XG to absolutely nothing you could lose every dime you have invested at a moments notice with no prior warning....... And I saw that happen to a number of contractors many of whom for simply standing their ground in an effort to make that company abide by it's own terms.

Now the longer you are a contractor the more money you are required to place at risk but still operate under contractual terms whereby that one million bucks you have at risk today is no more secure than what you had invested in the venture when you began Therefore, you're always on the lookout for that completely dramatic and completely unforeseen turn of events that could wipe out every cent of money you have invested and for some it is or was every cent they had.
As a result I too am always on the lookout for new developments that could in the near term or latter term become an emerging threat to the security of the large and growing larger sums of money contractors are putting on the table.
Why do I do it? Understand the basic premise when it comes to X Ground contracting. The whole damn thing is a lie and I saw guys lose their house and their marriage's breakup over that lie.

Frightening reality,,but true. Dead on!

 

[floridays]

If Denial 59 and the others want to revert to personal attacks that's fine because one fact still remains..... The needs of the market will always come before the needs of the contractor. Fedex Ground is in business to do one thing and one thing only. That is to serve the needs of the market . It never has and never will serve the needs of the contractor.
The dangers and risks that contractors see out there on a daily basis pose little or no threat to them . Why? Because they can see them. It's the ones they can't see that pose the danger.
The transportation market is in a constant state of flux and fought over by several powerful competitors using any means at their disposal to gain the advantage.
Now in that turmoil lies the seeds of change. What I try to do is to seek out and identify possible origins of change.
I don't have to do this. I don't owe anybody anything . But these people they call contractors are constantly being put in a position of having no other choice but to blindly put more and more money at risk . But every time there is a new restructuring of operations which anymore is on a annual basis....THEY"RE ALWAYS THE LAST TO KNOW and are always the ones most directly impacted. They deserve the respect that investment entitles them to.
Or is it that they've been beaten down for so long that they just don't know any better or for that much even care anymore?

Legitimate question seeking an answer, Why would anyone incorporate and sign as an ISP unless they had numerous investors backing them, or actually named corporate owners?

 

[Oldfart]

.. The needs of the market will always come before the needs of the contractor. Fedex Ground is in business to do one thing and one thing only. That is to serve the needs of the market . It never has and never will serve the needs of the contractor.

What company can prosper without serving the needs of its customers?

Sears?
Montgomery Ward?
American Motors?
Toys R Us?

 

[59 Dano]

The transportation market is in a constant state of flux and fought over by several powerful competitors using any means at their disposal to gain the advantage.
Now in that turmoil lies the seeds of change. What I try to do is to seek out and identify possible origins of change.

All kinds of predictions, none of which amount to anything.

There are plenty of people who think that anyone can set up shop and make money in the domestic package delivery business. Let them try it.

Purolator? Gone. Emery? Gone. Airborne Express? Gone. DHL? Almost entirely gone. LaserShip? LOL! OnTrac? LOLX2!!

I don't know what you think you're accomplishing other than possibly scaring someone who doesn't know any better that XYZ Inc. is going to waltz in and bring Ground to its knees.

 

[vantexan]

All kinds of predictions, none of which amount to anything.

There are plenty of people who think that anyone can set up shop and make money in the domestic package delivery business. Let them try it.

Purolator? Gone. Emery? Gone. Airborne Express? Gone. DHL? Almost entirely gone. LaserShip? LOL! OnTrac? LOLX2!!

I don't know what you think you're accomplishing other than possibly scaring someone who doesn't know any better that XYZ Inc. is going to waltz in and bring Ground to its knees.

Emery got done in by their union. Otherwise they were a very real threat. FedEx wasn't quite the powerhouse then they are now. If anyone will do it it'll be Amazon simply because they have the money to throw at it. If Amazon continues to grow and dominate online sales stands to reason that their delivery service will grow to meet that demand. And delivering online sales will be where growth will come from in what Fred S says is a saturated domestic market.

 

[bbsam]

Emery got done in by their union. Otherwise they were a very real threat. FedEx wasn't quite the powerhouse then they are now. If anyone will do it it'll be Amazon simply because they have the money to throw at it. If Amazon continues to grow and dominate online sales stands to reason that their delivery service will grow to meet that demand. And delivering online sales will be where growth will come from in what Fred S says is a saturated domestic market.

DHL had the money to throw at it (and did).

Not sure Amazon can pull off that kind of investment and be any more successful.

 

[CJinx]

DHL had the money to throw at it (and did).

Not sure Amazon can pull off that kind of investment and be any more successful.

Why compete when they can just buy Fedex? I don't think Fred S would ever sell but he isn't getting any younger.

 

[vantexan]

Why compete when they can just buy Fedex? I don't think Fred S would ever sell but he isn't getting any younger.

It's not up to Fred although if he sold his shares it would be a start. If a company wanted to take over FedEx they'd have to obtain 51% of the stock, or maybe 50.1%. That's a lot of money.

 

[vantexan]

DHL had the money to throw at it (and did).

Not sure Amazon can pull off that kind of investment and be any more successful.

If it's overnight service probably not. But they can provide same day service for many items where they have warehouses. And they're building more of those all the time.

 

[CJinx]

It's not up to Fred although if he sold his shares it would be a start. If a company wanted to take over FedEx they'd have to obtain 51% of the stock, or maybe 50.1%. That's a lot of money.

I know, but I don't think anyone would dare help the process along so long as Fred S is still here.

 

[bbsam]

Why compete when they can just buy Fedex? I don't think Fred S would ever sell but he isn't getting any younger.

Think about that. Could they really?

Of course they could, but how would they operate? Fedex isn’t big enough to handle all Amazon freight without losing a good number of good paying shippers. If they lose those shippers, what covers the operating expenses.

On a strategic point, imagine Amazon buying Fedex. What do UPS and the Post Office do?
Can you imagine the complete cluster friend if that was the move that inspired both to rescind all discounts?

They could absolutely destroy an Amazo/Fedex collaboration.

 

[bacha29]

The possible outcomes you guys present are all credible. The problem is that it's an election year. No major new legislation will be introduced. The economy while not showing signs of growing anywhere near the 4% needed to offset the tax cut induced revenue shortfall is still generally believed to be able to grow at around 3% and that's not too bad . In addition with numerous geopolitical events unfolding globally anyone of which could devastate the global economy and banking system change will likely be minimal and reserved. Any significant industry consolidation will require regulatory approval if not additional industry deregulation and will most likely be guided by the makeup of the new congress.

 

[Oldfart]

The possible outcomes you guys present are all credible. The problem is that it's an election year. No major new legislation will be introduced. The economy while not showing signs of growing anywhere near the 4% needed to offset the tax cut induced revenue shortfall is still generally believed to be able to grow at around 3% and that's not too bad . In addition with numerous geopolitical events unfolding globally anyone of which could devastate the global economy and banking system change will likely be minimal and reserved. Any significant industry consolidation will require regulatory approval if not additional industry deregulation and will most likely be guided by the makeup of the new congress.

Just what we needed. More of bacha financial analysis and garbage.