bleedinbrown58
That’s Craptacular
Except he's not even there to witness it....so how would he know?
Guaranteed Hours?
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PrimeUPS
Well-Known Member
Yes, you can't file on something you didn't see. You're not injured by actions taking place before you arrive or after you leave. If that were the case everyone could piggyback on everyone else's witnessed grievances for any reason.
As for semantics of being asked, he knows what start time is and if he doesn't it is the responsibility of the employee to find out. If I am on vacation and don't know what start time is on Monday, you can be sure I'm calling everyone in my phone to find out.
bleedinbrown58
That’s Craptacular
Thank you. Especially the OP who shows up at 5pm. The OP is just pissed off because the sort isn't running as late as last peak so he's not getting as many hours.
bleedinbrown58
That’s Craptacular
I don't agree with sups working. However, if I'm gonna waltz into work 2 hours late everyday and then start filing sups working grievances.....I wouldn't be surprised if they're suddenly adequately staffed by 6pm and send my butt home. It works both ways.
jamb_breaker
Member
I'm not expecting 5 hours peak or not.. but if i can't get 3.5 and the sort is going down earlier than it does in the middle of the summer because supervisors are working 2 hours early, something doesn't seem right.. hence this thread .
Cementups
Box Monkey
Who's doing all the work before 5pm then?!??! Magical elves?
That was sarcasm but yes, you are correct. You need FACT that supervisors are doing the work.
Mugarolla
Light 'em up!
If the sups were actually working.
He says they were "bringing up the sort." What does that mean?
He also doesn't show up until 5:00. How does he know the sups were actually working?
I find it hard to believe that the sups were working from 1:00 until 3:00 when the sort started.
Most sups do come in early. They have their work to do. Does not mean that they are doing union work. If someone says they are and they witness it, it is for them to file on. Or for the steward to file on.
If the sups are working, it should be filed on. But the OP, who cannot make it in until 2 hours after his start time, who did not witness the sups working, has no basis to grieve it.
bleedinbrown58
That’s Craptacular
Ummm.....the posted start time was 3pm according to the OP, so I'm assuming employees were working from 3 to 5pm.
Cementups
Box Monkey
You are still guaranteed your 3.5 paid hours, unless you are willing going home when they tell you they are done. Demand 3.5 hours work and if they can't offer it to you then they still have to pay you your guarantee. But if you willingly bounce early then you're SOL.
bleedinbrown58
That’s Craptacular
It's 5:46pm in the Southeast U.S....shouldn't you be at work??
bleedinbrown58
That’s Craptacular
If he's late for his shift....he is not entitled to his guarantee.
jamb_breaker
Member
So based off of the responses my only options are break into security and steal video proof of sups working or just keep on keeping on... I'll take the latter lol thanks guys
Cementups
Box Monkey
yeah, I reread that. It's a tough scenario for the OP really. If you're late for your start time then you forfeit your right to any guarantee.
bleedinbrown58
That’s Craptacular
Again.....it's almost 6pm on a Tuesday. You're crying about hours on this thread....shouldn't you be working?
jamb_breaker
Member
4:46 Central.....
PrimeUPS
Well-Known Member
You're basing this on the assumption that somehow sort times are set in stone. A moved load. Canceled CPU account. Change in intra-hub transport, and of course volume up or down can all have drastic effects on how sorts operate. They clearly informed you of the start time, your ability to make that time is your own problem. That's the nature of part-time work, you show up when they want you or you're kinda SOL.
bleedinbrown58
That’s Craptacular
You said Southeast (SE). Now I don't know much about geography....but the Southeast states....like Georgia, FL and the Carolinas for example.....are Eastern Standard time.
So, you have time to post on here...but can't get to UPS earlier than 5pm?
jamb_breaker
Member
Sorry first I've heard alabama wasn't in the SE, my apologies.
PrimeUPS
Well-Known Member
He still has a point. Start time was what, 3? You should already be there or trying to be there as soon as possible. So you're there and not working (on this forum), on the way there (it can wait), still at your first job (and thus not working for them), or you're really not that interested in maximizing a paycheck from either job??
jamb_breaker
Member
Stuck in traffic, but I guess it could wait...
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