Half Empty? NFL

[Wally]

Odd how the announcers say they support the protests. Its almost like they want to keep their jobs.

ESPN especially. They are way over to the left.

 

[tonyexpress]

On the front page of NFL.com Ha, ha. Guess they just can't get it through their heads that Brady is a Buc now.

 

[oldngray]

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On the front page of NFL . Com Ha, ha. Guess they just can't get it through their heads that Brady is a Buc now.

Everyone is even more confused about the Las Vegas team.

 

[tonyexpress]

Everyone is even more confused about the Las Vegas team.

At least they won.

 

[oldngray]

At least they won.

and nobody cared

 

[tonyexpress]

and nobody cared

Not only old n gray, but bitter.

 

[Jones]

Brady wasn't bad, but the Bucs were just sloppy overall. It's probably eating at him that the Pats won.

 

[PT Stewie]

BILL'S WEEKLY COLUMN Putting Your Money Where Your Knee Is By: Bill O'ReillySeptember 12, 2020

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Fascinating to see the nation’s intense culture war played out in Kansas City before the NFL opening game. The Chiefs largely stood for the National Anthem and some players actually put their hands over their hearts. My deceased father and grandfather, both war time vets, would have been proud. The Houston Texans stayed in the locker room for the Anthem and I am thankful for that exposition. It hurts me to see my country insulted so I’m glad I did not have to witness mass kneeling. And I approve of clarity. I now know exactly how the Houston team feels about America. The football announcer Chris Collingsworth was extremely annoying, virtue-signaling that he “stands” with the players in their social justice protests. Hey, Chris, spare us. We all know how noble you are. And I’m happy to discuss your opinion on my news analysis program any time. But using your entertainment platform to push a political view is exactly what the Academy Award pinheads do. In truth, the bravest thing done at the game was play-by-play guy Al Michaels, a brilliant announcer, totally avoiding the culture stuff. By staying silent, Michaels knew he would be hammered by the “woke” mob, which is exactly what happened. So here’s what’s GOING to happen to the National Football League. Annoyed by the political correctness, many fans will stop buying merchandise from teams. That huge source of revenue will plummet - with the Houston Texans leading the way. TV ratings for the first game were down substantially from last year. The teams are paid billions regardless, so they will not suffer there. But the networks will. Of course, the pandemic is severely limiting fans from going to the stadiums, so the ten dollar beers and six dollar hotdogs will be erased from the bottom line. Along with the 30 dollar parking fee. Right now, the average salary for an NFL player is $2 million per season; the lowest of all the major sports. That’s because most players come out of college and sign for minimum union wages. The NFL means “not for long.” Many players are quickly injured and replaced by other young athletes. Average time in the league: less than three years. What the players do not seem to understand is that the fans pay them. And many spectators, perhaps most, do not want to see politics on game day. I am among them. I do respect dissent and well understand social injustice. I have a charitable foundation that donates millions to help Americans who do not have equal opportunity for whatever reason. Not virtue-signaling, just reporting. The reason that I am able to give away millions of dollars is that the United States provided me, who had zero money when I left college, the opportunity to prosper. The climb up was tough, requiring a massive amount of hard work. I could not have done it in Sweden. The NFL players could not have done it in Sweden. So, this football fan objects to mixing politics with athletics. As the cliche goes: give me a break! However, I am interested in what the players think but not at the expense of seeing my country insulted. So, no NFL gear for me this season. And one more message to the protesting players. Your salaries will start to decline as team revenue does. Your knee will significantly affect your wallet. Team owners are blowing smoke at you guys now, but money will ultimately prevail. Always does.

 

[Up In Smoke]

Professional sports are funded through TV contracts, revenue sharing guarantees small market clubs can make be profitable. TV makes money through advertising dollars not viewership numbers. Every time you swipe your card, drive your car or eat that meal, you are funding professional sports. Sold out stadiums are a secondary income source, but not needed to survive. The Tampa Bay Rays were purchased for 200 million in 2004 and are now worth 1.1 billion, nearly 600% return on investment (40% yearly). They have averaged less than 15,000 per game in attendance.

 

[JJinVA]

Professional sports are funded through TV contracts, revenue sharing guarantees small market clubs can make be profitable. TV makes money through advertising dollars not viewership numbers. Every time you swipe your card, drive your car or eat that meal, you are funding professional sports. Sold out stadiums are a secondary income source, but not needed to survive. The Tampa Bay Rays were purchased for 200 million in 2004 and are now worth 1.1 billion, nearly 600% return on investment (40% yearly). They have averaged less than 15,000 per game in attendance.

I think youre right that they arent reliant on sold out games, but the viewership is how the networks sell ad time. If they have a low viewership, the ad companies arent going to give them $100 million dollars if only 10 people are tuning in. Infact viewership/ratings is how ad revenue is calculated. Which is why I havent watched TV in 17 years. I dont want to help them make any money whatsoever.

 

[trickpony1]

Which is why I havent watched TV in 17 years

I've often wondered about this.
How do they know I watched the Browns/Ravens game yesterday?

Is there a a carrier (transponder) signal along with the main signal of the program I'm watching that can be decoded to determine what I'm watching?

In the old days I think a select TV audience was given the little boxes that Nielsen used in their ratings gathering.

What if I stumble across a NFL game as I channel surf? Does this mean I watched the whole game?

 

[JJinVA]

I've often wondered about this.
How do they know I watched the Browns/Ravens game yesterday?

Is there a a carrier (transponder) signal along with the main signal of the program I'm watching that can be decoded to determine what I'm watching?

In the old days I think a select TV audience was given the little boxes that Nielsen used in their ratings gathering.

What if I stumble across a NFL game as I channel surf? Does this mean I watched the whole game?

All good questions that I cant answer, but Im sure just like a hotel can tell when you turn on HBO and then bills your room they have devices that can tell what youre watching. Far as skipping through, Im sure they report the highest number tuned in, inorder to maximize their revenue. The longer you stay on the channel, the more likely the number is to keep going up kind of thing is what I would suspect.

 

[Up In Smoke]

I think youre right that they arent reliant on sold out games, but the viewership is how the networks sell ad time. If they have a low viewership, the ad companies arent going to give them $100 million dollars if only 10 people are tuning in. Infact viewership/ratings is how ad revenue is calculated. Which is why I havent watched TV in 17 years. I dont want to help them make any money whatsoever.

I agree, but networks will continue to trip over themselves trying to buy the professional sports broadcasting rights. As long as advertising remains a Capital expenditure, they really don't need viewership either ei "Dunkcanville" on Fox

 

[BrownFlush]

Viewership down 28% compared to last year.

 

[Up In Smoke]

Viewership down 28% compared to last year.

Where did you see this? Nielsen hasn't released any full numbers yet. Out of home viewing numbers are typically 48 hours delayed.

 

[PT Stewie]

‘Sunday Night Football’ Season Debut Viewership Slides To Multi-Year Low; Fox’s Brady Vs Brees GOAT Battle Up From 2019 – Update

The opening game in the Rams' new $5B stadium was a win for the City of Angels team, but looks to be a big ratings loss for NBC & the NFL

deadline.com

 

[Serf]

I read Thursday Night Football was down anywhere 12-16% viewership, and opening week Sunday was down 10% overall. Who knows. I myself didn’t tune in for the first time in almost 20 yrs.

 

[Up In Smoke]

‘Sunday Night Football’ Season Debut Viewership Slides To Multi-Year Low; Fox’s Brady Vs Brees GOAT Battle Up From 2019 – Update

The opening game in the Rams' new $5B stadium was a win for the City of Angels team, but looks to be a big ratings loss for NBC & the NFL

deadline.com

I read that article and the west coast and out-of -home numbers have not been added yet. I believe the Thursday game have 2.5 million added viewers after those preliminary numbers were reported on Friday.

 

[PT Stewie]

I read Thursday Night Football was down anywhere 12-16% viewership, and opening week Sunday was down 10% overall. Who knows. I myself didn’t tune in for the first time in almost 20 yrs.

It was always difficult for me to watch with the great early fall weather here in the Mid-Atlantic. Especially if I invested the 3+hours with it being really nice outside and the Eagles lost. Now I can go fishing,work outside on the house, play golf, etc since the sh-t heads decided to stay in the locker room during the National Anthem. I am done with no regrets.

 

[BrownFlush]

Where did you see this? Nielsen hasn't released any full numbers yet. Out of home viewing numbers are typically 48 hours delayed.

Rush... 15 million compared to 22 million last year.... west coast numbers were not in when he said it