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Fred's Myth
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Haven't heard anyone invoking their Title VII rights, which, according to the NYTimes, is the appropriate defense of their protest, NOT the First Amendment of the Constitution.
Fred's Myth
Nonhyphenated American
Thanks for clarifying your post.
Sportello
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Read it again. There are three defenses, the First Amendment, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and The National Labor Relations Act. All are applicable.
MAKAVELI
Banned
They haven't had to invoke their rights because the NFL has no rule or basis to try and stop them. Pandoras Box has been opened and to try and shut it will only create more chaos and problems for the NFL. The problem lies with Drumpf trying to single out Black athletes for protesting and using that rhetoric to fire up his base. He has chosen to to make this an issue when it really wasn't. Before he opened his friend* mouth these protests were limited to a handful of players and the vast majority were standing. It really is hilarious to see all these faux patriots have an issue with the protests when just a few weeks ago they couldn't care less.
Fred's Myth
Nonhyphenated American
Disingenuous to say the least, or "reverse racist" to claim President Trump singled out "black athletes". Not to mention hypocritical to disparage Trump for exercising HIS First Amendment rights. Are all your standards double?
MAKAVELI
Banned
So we agree the athletes were just exercising their First Amendment right.
It will be fine
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Trump is speaking as an agent of the government, calling for the firing of private sector employees, so not exactly the same thing.
Fred's Myth
Nonhyphenated American
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
Golly Gee, Beaver, if you read the ENTIRE First Amendment, then it's painfully obvious that NO ONE IS PETITIONING THE GOVERNMENT FOR A REDRESS OF THEIR GRIEVANCE.
As a consequence of the protesters actions, the OWNERS are suffering a negative financial impact, and are well within their rights to make a business decision to eliminate the problem, and to potentially SUE to recover damages.
Since I am posting the above obviously for my own benefit, I am retiring from this thread.
My pleasure.
BrownArmy
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Glad you're retiring from this thread, you're confused.
There are several things in the First Amendment, and the 'redress of grievances' portion doesn't apply here.
It's more about the 'abridging the freedom of speech' section that applies.
Geez, everyone's a Constitutional scholar on this site!!!
Fred's Myth
Nonhyphenated American
Glad you're retiring from this thread, you're confused.
There are several things in the First Amendment, and the 'redress of grievances' portion doesn't apply here.
It's more about the 'abridging the freedom of speech' section that applies.
Geez, everyone's a Constitutional scholar on this site!!!
oldngray
nowhere special
Roger Goodell: NFL wants all players to stand for anthem, won't make them
A nice job of dodging the issue.
A nice job of dodging the issue.
They think that if they come down hard on the guys kneeling it's just going to cause more players to join them and that's probably correct, so they're just gonna try and smooze them instead and hope that eventually it will all just go away.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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...which it would have had Trump kept his big mouth shut...
"It's against the law, you know that?" Moore told the magazine. "It was a act of Congress that every man stand and put their hand over their heart. That's the law."
Roy Moore claims "it's against the law" for players to kneel during national anthem
Roy Moore claims "it's against the law" for players to kneel during national anthem
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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It is not a "law".
It is a generally accepted courtesy that we stand, remove our hat and put our hand over our heart for the playing of the national anthem.
BrownArmy
Well-Known Member
In the 'current events', this is what's called 'deflection'.
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