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Next Day Err

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When they force their way into women's sports, when the government starts requiring use of the right pronouns or risk being fired, when corporations decide that's the way the country is going so they want to push it on us with advertising, when kids are being indoctrinated in schools, then people have every right to stand up to it. What you're saying is we must accept what you want. Never works the opposite way with people like you. Only your side gets to decide how things are to be otherwise anyone who disagrees is a fascist.
So don’t play women’s sports or work for the government then. It’s a free country.
 

Box Ox

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When they force their way into women's sports, when the government starts requiring use of the right pronouns or risk being fired
So don’t play women’s sports or work for the government then. It’s a free country.

How are being beat up on by biological men playing in women's sports or being fired from a job because you won't worship at the woke pronoun altar at work examples of a free country in action?
 

Thebrownblob

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How are being beat up on by biological men playing in women's sports or being fired from a job because you won't worship at the woke pronoun altar at work examples of a free country in action?
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Next Day Err

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How are being beat up on by biological men playing in women's sports or being fired from a job because you won't worship at the woke pronoun altar at work examples of a free country in action?
Who’s been fired at work for not using pronouns correctly? Or does it come from a place of malice?

If they have then it’s insubordination. Same as if went out of my way to be a jerk and call a big ol’ lady a man who doesn’t want me to call her a man. If I did that over and over then I’d be a butthole and might face discipline.

It costs nothing to be good to people.
 

Box Ox

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How are being beat up on by biological men playing in women's sports or being fired from a job because you won't worship at the woke pronoun altar at work examples of a free country in action?
Who’s been fired at work for not using pronouns correctly? Or does it come from a place of malice?

You think of it as malice because people aren't complying with your religion. Convert or face the consequences, infidels!

It costs nothing to be good to people.

It clearly costs women and the mentally ill.
 

Next Day Err

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It clearly costs women and the mentally ill.
How does being cordial to trans people cost the mentally ill? I’m nice to mentally ill people regardless if they want to seek treatment.

The bottom line is that many people just want trans people to disappear. One way or another. That’s not how I see this issue.
 

Next Day Err

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Ok folks. What about intersex babies? Should they
So you're running away from your ridiculous argument that nobody is demanding people call these men women.

Okay.
Carry on.
Ok. And what about intersex individuals? Many times the doctors and families decide on the sex because it’s just not that clear which sex is predominant. Should these individuals be treated as second class citizens? Nature chose for them to be intersex. Families chose what the baby will be classified as. I don’t see why it’s a government’s place to tell a family later that the family can’t also decide with the child and doctor that the child is in fact trans if that’s what their decision is.

Sex is complicated. Gender identity is complicated. Get over it.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
Ok folks. What about intersex babies? Should they

Ok. And what about intersex individuals? Many times the doctors and families decide on the sex because it’s just not that clear which sex is predominant. Should these individuals be treated as second class citizens? Nature chose for them to be intersex. Families chose what the baby will be classified as. I don’t see why it’s a government’s place to tell a family later that the family can’t also decide with the child and doctor that the child is in fact trans if that’s what their decision is.
So you've realized you can't actually defend the delusional concept that men can be women, and are now resorting to talking about a rare genetic defect instead.

Lol.
 

vantexan

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So don’t play women’s sports or work for the government then. It’s a free country.
Tell that to the young women who lose a scholarship to a male, are exposed to male genatalia in the locker room, or are injured by a much stronger male. You're very cavalier with other people's rights.
 

vantexan

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Who’s been fired at work for not using pronouns correctly? Or does it come from a place of malice?

If they have then it’s insubordination. Same as if went out of my way to be a jerk and call a big ol’ lady a man who doesn’t want me to call her a man. If I did that over and over then I’d be a butthole and might face discipline.

It costs nothing to be good to people.
You would absolutely be a jerk to call an actual woman a man. To offend a man who wants to be called a woman is something else altogether. The governor of Arkansas recently signed legislation where she did away with language that diminished women. Your side tried to make everything ambiguous by referring to women as birthing persons in their state regulations and other silliness. You are purposely trying to blur the line between the sexes instead of admitting to biological reality.
 
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