Hilary Clinton

rickyb

Banned
The argument is MOOT when its backdropped against CITIZENS UNITED.

There is no comparison. Large donor pools will always back the right horse at the end of the day. All the preliminary money bernie sanders got will be funneled to Hillary at some point after the first primary when she wipes the floor with bernie.

At some point, look for the two to merge, creating the largest campaign pool of money in history.

Thank you REPUBLICANS!

TOS.
i dont think so. bill clinton raised the same amount of money as the republican contender. obama raised more than mccain.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
Why does that matter??

Have you looked at the legislation marco rubio has endorsed or put forward under his name while in the senate??

Better look in your own backyard before you start looking into other peoples business.

TOS.
Yes a typical response from TOS .
How predictable .
Can't answer a simple question , so TOS must go on the attack against some one or something else that is not part of the ongoing discussion .
Or maybe this time TOS is too embarrassed to acknowledge that the favorite senator wasted her time while in the Senate .
 

The Other Side

Well-Known Troll
Troll
i dont think so. bill clinton raised the same amount of money as the republican contender. obama raised more than mccain.

This is true, but you forget one thing. During that election, campaigns were regulated by McCain/Feingold reforms and large donors were not allowed. OBAMA raised the highest amount of grass roots donations from citizens. Then, Obama refused matching funds from the government, leaving McCain out to dry during the campaign. Bernie Sanders just beat that record.

The republicans, seeing they got outfundraised by regulation, immediately after the 2012 election, went to court, and worked their way to the US Supreme court, where the GOP knew the 5 conservatives would hand them a victory in citizens united and gave birth to the Sheldon Adelsons of this country giving tens of millions of dollars and buying reprocity.

Unfortunately, it didnt work for Romney, as it wont for ANY of the GOP candidates you see today.

The DEMS will still outfund raise the GOP and you still wont like it.

Get over it, this is the game that the GOP wanted to play, now its being played.

TOS.
 

rickyb

Banned
This is true, but you forget one thing. During that election, campaigns were regulated by McCain/Feingold reforms and large donors were not allowed. OBAMA raised the highest amount of grass roots donations from citizens. Then, Obama refused matching funds from the government, leaving McCain out to dry during the campaign. Bernie Sanders just beat that record.

The republicans, seeing they got outfundraised by regulation, immediately after the 2012 election, went to court, and worked their way to the US Supreme court, where the GOP knew the 5 conservatives would hand them a victory in citizens united and gave birth to the Sheldon Adelsons of this country giving tens of millions of dollars and buying reprocity.

Unfortunately, it didnt work for Romney, as it wont for ANY of the GOP candidates you see today.

The DEMS will still outfund raise the GOP and you still wont like it.

Get over it, this is the game that the GOP wanted to play, now its being played.

TOS.

i would get over the false dichotomy between republicans and democrats. both parties will continue to send the country down the tubes as they have been doing since 1980.

and im pretty sure obama got a lot of wall street money. he is a corporate candidate and president. i agree with michael moore that his legacy will be he was the first black president and thats it.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
im pretty sure obama got a lot of wall street money. he is a corporate candidate and president. i agree with michael moore that his legacy will be he was the first black president and thats it.
rickyb , he is not the first black president .
His is biracial White/African American .
There is not a single drop of black blood in him .
In the USA black denotes a lineage going back to the slavery era .
He has repeatedly stated that his father was from Kenya , a British colony .
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
rickyb , he is not the first black president .
His is biracial White/African American .
There is not a single drop of black blood in him .
In the USA black denotes a lineage going back to the slavery era .
He has repeatedly stated that his father was from Kenya , a British colony .
wut?
 

realbrown1

Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
This is true, but you forget one thing. During that election, campaigns were regulated by McCain/Feingold reforms and large donors were not allowed. OBAMA raised the highest amount of grass roots donations from citizens. Then, Obama refused matching funds from the government, leaving McCain out to dry during the campaign. Bernie Sanders just beat that record.

The republicans, seeing they got outfundraised by regulation, immediately after the 2012 election, went to court, and worked their way to the US Supreme court, where the GOP knew the 5 conservatives would hand them a victory in citizens united and gave birth to the Sheldon Adelsons of this country giving tens of millions of dollars and buying reprocity.

Unfortunately, it didnt work for Romney, as it wont for ANY of the GOP candidates you see today.

The DEMS will still outfund raise the GOP and you still wont like it.

Get over it, this is the game that the GOP wanted to play, now its being played.

TOS.
So, according to you, a lot of little donations are ok, but a few large donations are bad?

Just trying to make sense on some of the jobbers that you post about.

And let me tell you, it ain't easy.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
The argument is MOOT when its backdropped against CITIZENS UNITED.

There is no comparison. Large donor pools will always back the right horse at the end of the day. All the preliminary money bernie sanders got will be funneled to Hillary at some point after the first primary when she wipes the floor with bernie.

At some point, look for the two to merge, creating the largest campaign pool of money in history.

Thank you REPUBLICANS!

TOS.

liberal candidates have been more then happy to adopt to the citizens united ruling. Your candidates do not have the moral high ground on this issue.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/13/citizens-united-liberals_n_4268369.html
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
rickyb , he is not the first black president .
His is biracial White/African American .
There is not a single drop of black blood in him .
In the USA black denotes a lineage going back to the slavery era .
He has repeatedly stated that his father was from Kenya , a British colony .

and he certainly did not live the black experience in this country. He is realistically the political Rachelle Janelle.
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
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MAKAVELI

Well-Known Member
rickyb , he is not the first black president .
His is biracial White/African American .
There is not a single drop of black blood in him .
In the USA black denotes a lineage going back to the slavery era .
He has repeatedly stated that his father was from Kenya , a British colony .
Dude you are smoking some serious :censored2:. In the good ol USA, black denotes a lineage to Africa. Obama's father was Kenyan ( located on the continent of AFRICA ) and his mother was American. That makes him African American. Which makes him the first BLACK president. Get it. Got it? Good.
 
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The Other Side

Well-Known Troll
Troll
Dude you are smoking some serious :censored2:. In the good ol USA, black denotes a lineage to Africa. Obama's father was Kenyan ( located on the continent of AFRICA ) and his mother was American. That makes him African American. Which makes him the first BLACK president. Get it. Got it? Good.

He wont get it bro, when its convenient, obama is black, then when it isnt, he wants him to be white.

He doesnt know what side of the coin he's looking at.

TOS.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
Dude you are smoking some serious :censored2:. In the good ol USA, black denotes a lineage to Africa. Obama's father was Kenyan ( located on the continent of AFRICA ) and his mother was American. That makes him African American. Which makes him the first BLACK president. Get it. Got it? Good.
Yet Africans do not call themselves Black , actually they consider it to be offensive .
When Obama checked into his own roots , he found out that he's part Irish . So wouldn't that make him the first Irish / African president ?
 
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