HOFFA , HALL AND OBRIEN campaign announcement

[804brown]

Maybe your boy Carey shouldn't have topped off the pension payouts? Maybe freight is a dying business? Maybe baby boomers are retiring faster than people are being hired? Maybe TDU should help the IBT with a focus on A fight against RTW? Maybe TDU can thank Hall for negotiating $18.90 in wage increases on top of the health welfare and pension? Maybe TDU could praise the organizing of the airline industry? Maybe TDU can show all the rank and file their books without paying $1000 to attend a "conference"? Maybe TDU can spend a dime of their precious TRF? Maybe TDU can post their own true 100k list? Maybe TDU write about when their own get charged by the IRB? Maybe if TDU wasn't so bitter with losing seats on the International level, it would actually help our union. Instead, this rouge anti Union group of hate would rather strike, kill and eat what we, the members, worked so hard for. TDU in just trying to prove any point that works for their secret agenda is actually helping people like Walmart and the Koch boys. Stop working so hard against it. If you really wanted to help, you would have long ago. Your offer is NOT to help the members, it is to build your war chest in order to lobby for your big secret. The secret fanatical agenda of communism shrouded in a socialistic democratic garb of suffocating Saran Wrap. All your doing is killing us off one by one. So 804brown, Paff, Lev'n, Sylvester or whoever you are (at least we know your not Carey, Kindred or Camarata), the brothers and sisters of our great Union want to say, we are on to you.

Typical answer here. I asked can you name a single policy implemented that one can brag about in the last 15 yrs or contract anyone could brag about. Instead of going through Hoffa's record and informing me/us, you go about doing the only thing you are on here to do: ATTACK TDU. Ive already explained what the organization is and what its goals are. You continue to live in your little bubble world of fantasy where TDU is an evil entity that needs to be destroyed because your Old Guard "leaders" fears TDU. Not for "dividing" this union. Is our country "divided" when we are dems and repubs??
You are under the false belief that TDU lives to undermine Hoffa and any Old Guard leader. Hoffa/Hall have been quite capable of doing that all by themselves. Dont forget TDU also criticized Carey when he screwed up. TDU is just there as an alternative to the same ol same ol leadership that has failed all of us for 15 yrs. It is a vehicle for members to use to get informed and mobilized so that they can stop feeling apathetic and start feeling empowered about changing their local or this Intl.

 

[10 point]

Keep trying to convince yourself of that. If you believe TDU is run by the rank and file, I have a bridge to sell you.

Is that the bridge where trolls hide under?

 

[804brown]

Are you a dues paying member?or have you ever been a dues paying member?and please don't say for 1 year in 1974

You McCarthyite Old Guardists think everyone on here is Paff or Levine or Tim. "Have you ever been..." LOL!! Well, actually I still am a UPS driver from you guessed it, Local 804. Hence the name. Been paying dues for a very long time. Currently paying $84/month.

 

[10 point]

Maybe your boy Carey shouldn't have topped off the pension payouts? Maybe freight is a dying business? Maybe baby boomers are retiring faster than people are being hired? Maybe TDU should help the IBT with a focus on A fight against RTW? Maybe TDU can thank Hall for negotiating $18.90 in wage increases on top of the health welfare and pension? Maybe TDU could praise the organizing of the airline industry? Maybe TDU can show all the rank and file their books without paying $1000 to attend a "conference"? Maybe TDU can spend a dime of their precious TRF? Maybe TDU can post their own true 100k list? Maybe TDU write about when their own get charged by the IRB? Maybe if TDU wasn't so bitter with losing seats on the International level, it would actually help our union. Instead, this rouge anti Union group of hate would rather strike, kill and eat what we, the members, worked so hard for. TDU in just trying to prove any point that works for their secret agenda is actually helping people like Walmart and the Koch boys. Stop working so hard against it. If you really wanted to help, you would have long ago. Your offer is NOT to help the members, it is to build your war chest in order to lobby for your big secret. The secret fanatical agenda of communism shrouded in a socialistic democratic garb of suffocating Saran Wrap. All your doing is killing us off one by one. So 804brown, Paff, Lev'n, Sylvester or whoever you are (at least we know your not Carey, Kindred or Camarata), the brothers and sisters of our great Union want to say, we are on to you.

I just read that the Teamster Union was rejected by a large airline.
What did they organize?

 

[10 point]

I was in central states and now I'm in the 105% funded IBT/ups pension fund.

Is there an age cut off on that?

 

[Lead Belly]

Is there an age cut off on that?

As long as you have retired after 1/1/08 you are covered. As in anything in life nothing is guaranteed but I'd rather be in a fund that over 105% funded.

 

[Lead Belly]

Typical answer here. I asked can you name a single policy implemented that one can brag about in the last 15 yrs or contract anyone could brag about. Instead of going through Hoffa's record and informing me/us, you go about doing the only thing you are on here to do: ATTACK TDU. Ive already explained what the organization is and what its goals are. You continue to live in your little bubble world of fantasy where TDU is an evil entity that needs to be destroyed because your Old Guard "leaders" fears TDU. Not for "dividing" this union. Is our country "divided" when we are dems and repubs??
You are under the false belief that TDU lives to undermine Hoffa and any Old Guard leader. Hoffa/Hall have been quite capable of doing that all by themselves. Dont forget TDU also criticized Carey when he screwed up. TDU is just there as an alternative to the same ol same ol leadership that has failed all of us for 15 yrs. It is a vehicle for members to use to get informed and mobilized so that they can stop feeling apathetic and start feeling empowered about changing their local or this Intl.

Tim it's you in the bubble. Your tall friend used to have this on his motorcycle

he got rejected and now he's TDU. Yeah your organization is crap. It's the island of misfits led by non dues paying members.

 

[Lead Belly]

Is that the bridge where trolls hide under?

Are you looking for shelter?

 

[Lead Belly]

You McCarthyite Old Guardists think everyone on here is Paff or Levine or Tim. "Have you ever been..." LOL!! Well, actually I still am a UPS driver from you guessed it, Local 804. Hence the name. Been paying dues for a very long time. Currently paying $84/month.

Newsflash Tim. They are $85 now. You better get with the secretary treasurer and make sure your dues are up to date.

 

[Bubblehead]

As long as you have retired after 1/1/08 you are covered.

I'm hearing that there may be a loophole installed in the Omnibus Pension Bill that will allow UPS to renege on its contractual guarantee for our Central States years when that fund collapses, which it surely will.

 

[Lead Belly]

I'm hearing that there may be a loophole installed in the Omnibus Pension Bill that will allow UPS to renege on its contractual guarantee for our Central States years when that fund collapses, which it surely will.

I hear Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy.

 

[wide load]

Typical answer here. I asked can you name a single policy implemented that one can brag about in the last 15 yrs or contract anyone could brag about. Instead of going through Hoffa's record and informing me/us, you go about doing the only thing you are on here to do: ATTACK TDU. Ive already explained what the organization is and what its goals are. You continue to live in your little bubble world of fantasy where TDU is an evil entity that needs to be destroyed because your Old Guard "leaders" fears TDU. Not for "dividing" this union. Is our country "divided" when we are dems and repubs??
You are under the false belief that TDU lives to undermine Hoffa and any Old Guard leader. Hoffa/Hall have been quite capable of doing that all by themselves. Dont forget TDU also criticized Carey when he screwed up. TDU is just there as an alternative to the same ol same ol leadership that has failed all of us for 15 yrs. It is a vehicle for members to use to get informed and mobilized so that they can stop feeling apathetic and start feeling empowered about changing their local or this Intl.

I'm not here to attack TDU. I'm here to challenge stupidity. And before you go throwing stones, make sure you reinforce your windows. I love how TDUers are so ignorant to their own venom.

 

[Bubblehead]

I hear Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy.

Not $90, not $9, not 9¢

 

[Whatbrownwontdoforyou]

Not $90, not $9, not 9¢

How much do you pay for healthcare in your local?

 

[Lead Belly]

Not $90, not $9, not 9¢

U are a big conspiracy guy who do you think killed Kennedy???

 

[wide load]

Not $90, not $9, not 9¢

How much of a deduction comes out of your check for health?

 

[anHOURover]

How much of a deduction comes out of your check for health?

Identical and mirrors your company plan was another lie told by HOGFA DANCE HALL AND SEAN OLYIN

 

[Lead Belly]

Oh here we go now.

 

[10 point]

Are you looking for shelter?

Are you saying I'm a troll?

Where does TDU get their traction to support slates and candidates for GP that win elections?
It isn't from the rouge Teamsters, the ugly ducklings.

Answer that correctly and you'll see why the current leadership and it's supporters hate them.

The origin of their support and success is dissent and that isn't trumped up by posters on this forum.

 

[10 point]

Identical and mirrors your company plan was another lie told by HOGFA DANCE HALL AND SEAN OLYIN

The thought is that we're too stupid to know the difference.

You're arguing with some folks on here that got a huge boost in their existing C6 plan.
There's nothing wrong with telling the truth to members.

If you went to the healthcare meetings you would have heard SOME of the differences in the new plan.
We weren't told everything but it didn't matter because our vote didn't matter anyway.

Two whole regions helped vote the National in and they weren't getting TeamCare.

AnHOURover, it was all planned out and if you buck the system you're called TDU and other unpleasant things.

Face it, take your medicine and like it.

Until 2016.