Hope everyone gets it now

[Coldworld]

We get it

You got some this morning??? You SOB!!!

 

[Coldworld]

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Damn mutt got owned...LMAO

 

[just chillin']

So you are saying all the supplements passed the 2 man vote?

The 2 man vote is 2 representatives from each local if I’m correct. So they wouldn’t be preliminary voting on each other’s supplements.

 

[SameRightsForAll]

That was a leg I was standing on myself. I researched the '97 strike in-depth, hoping that there was a precedent set then that contradicted what happened this time around and contradicted the constitution in general. It didn't happen. Nothing was ever put to the vote in '97. UPS made a "last, best, and final" offer to the negotiating committee because they weren't making any headway on something that the negotiating committee would be willing to put to the vote, and Carey didn't want to put that offer to the vote, either. They just went on strike very suddenly on August 4th, 3 days after the contract expired (the strike didn't happen on August 1st at midnight because they agreed on an extension). So that leg was taken out from under me.

See, what's funny is that some high veteran employees at the hub I work at even mis-remember there being other offers being put to the vote and being rejected, and that there was a first, second, and then a third and final offer. Perhaps it's really just mis-remembering. Perhaps it's the Mandela Effect in action. Who knows.

Requiring 2/3rd no vote under 50% participation when two thirds of the voters are non-voting part-timers should make everyone realize our situation. Why didn't either side advertise this, they just forgot about that little detail? Why do you think it was put in the constitution in the first place (decades ago). The writing is on the wall.

The difference in 1997 and 2018 is that in 1997 nobody was under the table polishing UPS's schlong on behalf of the whole union.

 

[UPSTeamster Pragmatist]

The part timers never voted which is why the rule was instituted.

 

[Superteeth2478]

The difference in 1997 and 2018 is that in 1997 nobody was under the table polishing UPS's schlong on behalf of the whole union.

I don't know, I guess that Big Brown Weenie was just too tempting for Hawfa and Taylor to resist...

 

[1989]

25 years ago part timers made an actual wage, likely $20 an hour in today's market. They had a reason to vote. That rule needs to be out of here.

Wrong. 8 bux an hour in 1993 is closer to $14.

 

[Superteeth2478]

Wrong. 8 bux an hour in 1993 is closer to $14.

Way back when in 1982, though, it was a lot more.

 

[1989]

Way back when in 1982, though, it was a lot more.

But what was it in 1938?

 

[Superteeth2478]

But what was it in 1938?

Even more. You get the point though, or no? That was the rate in 1982 for part-time work.

 

[mikejonesjr]

Wrong. 8 bux an hour in 1993 is closer to $14.

Not wrong. Im not sure when the rule came about, but if it were '93 and employees started $8.50 thats just under $15 hour today and they received benefits right away. I understand expecting them to vote. They werent expecting temp workers making minimum wage to vote like today.

 

[PT Car Washer]

But what was it in 1938?

No PT in 1938. I think it was the early 1960's when the IBT agreed to PT workers. PT made the same wages and benefits as FT. Good deal for the Union as they doubled and tripled their monthly dues money.

 

[1989]

No PT in 1938. I think it was the early 1960's when the IBT agreed to PT workers. PT made the same wages and benefits as FT. Good deal for the Union as they doubled and tripled their monthly dues money.

But ups still had a starting wage.

 

[Dulce Bombón]

It was not a final offer, it was not relevant!

Were you ever told it was the final offer?

When the six other Supplements are done! In just waiting for my Retro Pay.

 

[PT Car Washer]

But ups still had a starting wage.

Well yes. And 30 days to top rate and benefits. Not 4 years.

 

[1989]

Well yes. And 30 days to top rate and benefits. Not 4 years.

You are forgetting the turkey and the safe driving awards. And the annual gold coin before that.

 

[PT Car Washer]

You are forgetting the turkey and the safe driving awards. And the annual gold coin before that.

You are forgetting the turkey and the safe driving awards. And the annual gold coin before that.

Never got the gold coin. Before my time.

 

[badpal]

No PT in 1938. I think it was the early 1960's when the IBT agreed to PT workers. PT made the same wages and benefits as FT. Good deal for the Union as they doubled and tripled their monthly dues money.

Wasnt it the 82 contract when the part timers got sold out? At least that time we got a signing bonus for doing it.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Wasnt it the 82 contract when the part timers got sold out? At least that time we got a signing bonus for doing it.

Yes and every contract since have been one concession after another. We used to negotiate for improvements each contract.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

The difference in 1997 and 2018 is that in 1997 nobody was under the table polishing UPS's schlong on behalf of the whole union.

Ron Carey was to busy crapping his pants.... since UPS called his bluff.