no way man, this is our fight. were not on the playground. none of us are entitled or forced to work for UPS, the company would spin it to make look like a bunch of cry babys. i agree with you on how they treat us is like crap but it would be better to put the heat on the international, we pay them not the public.
how to stop ups from all the bad they do
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Boysie8706
Well-Known Member
Must be from a South Fl UPS
If you invest years in a company you should have every right to stay and improve the culture. UPS culture has always treated UPSERS like crap. THIS UPS HARASSMENT CULTURE IS NOTHING NEW. UPSERS have always been told they make too much money and that they need to do more work.
The avg. worker in America wouldnt last a week in package car.
ocnewguy
Well-Known Member
As mentioned previously, you have to think of public perception. Unions are looked at with more disdain every day in this country. The economy hasn't helped either. You really think that saying what will be perceived as "my boss is mean he yells at me and calls me names!" while making $32/hr with free benefits and pension will gain ANY public backing? No. Snowball, hell etc.
Pontencuatro
Member
exactly my thoughts. help me howard!
AZBrown
Teamster by choice
I have a few
First and foremost, I think it should be incumbent upon stewards to welcome new members to the flock, and inform them the benefits of the union, and what individuals can do to educate themselves and empower the workforce. Knowledge is power...An informed employee is a dangerous employee. Case in point--How many times have you been lied to in a disciplinary meeting.
Other ideas I wouldn't discuss on this site for liability reasons.
It's not top secret stuff, but there are many types of UPS employees on this website, and with the whole free speech thing and all, I think the owner of this site has had to deal with some BS from UPS from time to time.
AZBrown
Teamster by choice
Or an Arizona trailer in AugustThe avg. worker in America wouldnt last a week in package car.
It sure did in 1997....
Ask the ones that were around back then
Because Romney was the worst choice of the 2. Plain and simple.
barnyard
KTM rider
Try telling that to the millions of non-union people that think they work harder for $10/hour.
I agree. And until they can step on the truck for a day, they can never appreciate it. I've worked a lot of jobs before UPS. Construction, jewelry polishing plant, super market, finance, self employed and UPS was by far the most difficult overall. The combination of physicality, mental concentration, management related stress, makes it very difficult. The person that said that we couldn't do Scott Davis job might be partially true. But I guarantee that he would never step foot on a real route. UPS would never be on "undercover boss". Even if they did, they would be fluffed.
packageguy
Well-Known Member
there is a process, If you are harassed file a grievance, There is also HR, Then there is corporate, pick one. We are grown men and women. Stop complaining and take action...
We dont need to tell the media. We are all big boys and girls. We can use our union rights, against harrassment, over 9.5, and anything else. Remember how much sympathy we got from our strike in 97/ zero. And back then we werent making 32 bucks an hour, so you think we would get more now?
Think about a guy making ten bucks an hour, who would love to be abused for 32. Abuse the heck out of me he would say.
There is no way anyone knows what we do, or how hard it is, without doing it. Most people think we drive around all day and deliver a few pd pkg from QVC. Or wait for a call to go pick up a pkg, and it isnt taped labeled etc. That pkg to that person is oh so important. They do not realize we have 300+ of them.
Just stand your ground, use your union, and if that dont work, keep trying. You do not have to put up with abuse. Of course filing will get you more, so be it. Just do it. You pay 70+ a month for that protection.
Think about a guy making ten bucks an hour, who would love to be abused for 32. Abuse the heck out of me he would say.
There is no way anyone knows what we do, or how hard it is, without doing it. Most people think we drive around all day and deliver a few pd pkg from QVC. Or wait for a call to go pick up a pkg, and it isnt taped labeled etc. That pkg to that person is oh so important. They do not realize we have 300+ of them.
Just stand your ground, use your union, and if that dont work, keep trying. You do not have to put up with abuse. Of course filing will get you more, so be it. Just do it. You pay 70+ a month for that protection.
ocnewguy
Well-Known Member
Agreed. As I've said before a strike would devastatingly bad for PR. NO ONE will have sympathy for the drivers and what they make just because "their boss is mean to them"
And actually our boss isnt mean, they are just following direction, as we are, but we have a backing they dont. So when it gets ridiculous we have to call it on paper. Problenm is we all complain but are getting used to those 1200 dollar take homes. minus our 401k contributions.
Dragon
Package Center Manager
but are getting used to those 1200 dollar take homes.minus our 401k contributions.
and its getting harder for me to get you to come home when you are not dispatched with enough work.
basically we/you are at the point you cannot afford to come home...
Jackburton
Gone Fish'n
Yet swing drivers in my hub hide between belts to avoid being seen by a FT that wants to go home. The people you are describing are the ones that submitted to the long hours and now have designed their lives around it. These people are the exception to the rule, not the majority.
Hey give me a good dispatch and I will punchout on time!!Screw that 8:30 9:00 P.M. crap If you cant live on 75-80K a year you are living too large!!!
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