I drink your milkshake! a metaphor for capitalism

vantexan

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i see what your saying.

revolutions can happen in a few years to a few decades.

i disagree that people should just be thankful. if your always thankful then you might be setting the bar to low for yourself, and making someone too rich.
I'm not dying so someone else can make more money. I'll do the best I can with what I have available to me. Revolutions should be about tyranny, physical abuse, starvation. Not because you want a nice home in the 'burbs.
 

rickyb

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I'm not dying so someone else can make more money. I'll do the best I can with what I have available to me. Revolutions should be about tyranny, physical abuse, starvation. Not because you want a nice home in the 'burbs.
lets see here...do we have:

tyranny? check
starvation? check
abuse? check
 

rickyb

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If you're saying we have the same conditions that lead to the French and Russian revolutions you're kidding yourself.
some of the same conditions. guys i listen to have talked about it. also i recall hearing something from ralph nader where things were :censored2:ty in the past and no one did anything.

people are mediocre. alot of people are :censored2:s or narcissists or both.
 

vantexan

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some of the same conditions. guys i listen to have talked about it. also i recall hearing something from ralph nader where things were :censored2:ty in the past and no one did anything.

people are mediocre. alot of people are :censored2:s or narcissists or both.
So if people aren't willing to revolt you call them names? Show me the conditions compared to being a Russian serf in the 1890's.
 

rickyb

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So if people aren't willing to revolt you call them names? Show me the conditions compared to being a Russian serf in the 1890's.
hedges compares the conditions to russian serfs in wages of rebellion. the whole book is a must read. something hedges said around the time that book came out finally helped me make the connection in my mind that i had to do more politically.

yea what i said about people is true and them not revolting doesnt help.

btw im supposed to sleep in my car at a casino tonight.
 

vantexan

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hedges compares the conditions to russian serfs in wages of rebellion. the whole book is a must read. something hedges said around the time that book came out finally helped me make the connection in my mind that i had to do more politically.

yea what i said about people is true and them not revolting doesnt help.

btw im supposed to sleep in my car at a casino tonight.
Russian serfs were the bulk of the population. They had to turn over a large percentage of their crops and livestock to the aristocracy. Any dissent was brutally put down. They lived in shacks. They had no opportunities. To compare those conditions to the working poor in the U.S. is laughable.
 

rickyb

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Russian serfs were the bulk of the population. They had to turn over a large percentage of their crops and livestock to the aristocracy. Any dissent was brutally put down. They lived in shacks. They had no opportunities. To compare those conditions to the working poor in the U.S. is laughable.
or you can read the book and see what he said. obviously not everything is comparable. history can repeat though.
 

Observer

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When Obama was running things - he even gave the "poor" free cell phones, free internet, ccdf in addition to all of the other benefits. This enabling has to stop. In a communist country - say you raised hogs - the government took all of them and let you keep one. All of your mail was censored. Any packages sent from your family were gone through. The nice red coat (used) was replaced by an old blue worn one. Once communism fell, my relatives are doing better.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
When Obama was running things - he even gave the "poor" free cell phones, free internet, ccdf in addition to all of the other benefits. This enabling has to stop. In a communist country - say you raised hogs - the government took all of them and let you keep one. All of your mail was censored. Any packages sent from your family were gone through. The nice red coat (used) was replaced by an old blue worn one. Once communism fell, my relatives are doing better.
Good point. Except it was Republicans that gave the free cellphones. Corporate welfare to telecoms. If you mean what you preach, don't vote Republican!
 

rickyb

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When Obama was running things - he even gave the "poor" free cell phones, free internet, ccdf in addition to all of the other benefits. This enabling has to stop. In a communist country - say you raised hogs - the government took all of them and let you keep one. All of your mail was censored. Any packages sent from your family were gone through. The nice red coat (used) was replaced by an old blue worn one. Once communism fell, my relatives are doing better.
america has most expensive internet in the west.
 

rickyb

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i think unions are better than not having one, but i feel like in the big unions theres alot of corruption.

its kinda like representative politics. maybe union members need to make their leadership afraid of them. and im assuming the whole union system may need to be changed to make it more participatory.
 
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