IBTs Economic Proposals Leaked!

[km3]

i think part timers should go on strike and start are own union

Maybe not another union, but the idea of separate contracts for inside and outside work does appeal to me. I could get on board with that.

 

[Jkloc420]

Maybe not another union, but the idea of separate contracts for inside and outside work does appeal to me. I could get on board with that.

@Future to

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Not if you are part time

You're confused.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

With the show up bonus, UPS is already paying $15 to $20/hr for an off the street new PT employee. UPS is going broke(ha ha) by not paying a living wage.

The bonus is not applicable everywhere.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

yes, you are working

Unless you're on vacation.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

Can't boost the PT starting wage to $15/hr and give us $6 over the life of the contract.

They're not "giving" you anything.
Why act like you will be involved?

Would they use crayons to make their signs?

At least they'll show up to the strike line to support the other coworkers.
None the less it's too late to instill ethics in your old mind.

 

[bigrig]

sad but true. give back.

 

[Shift]

A "living wage" is not possible with part time. We would have to pay a very high hourly wage for a person to live off of 17.5 hrs a week(3.5hr guarantee a day)

At $35/hr.
$35 x 17.5 = $612.50 a week = $31850 a year. Maybe a livable wage in cheaper areas, but definitely not a big city, or even the surrounding suburbs.

Perhaps we should start part timers at $35 hour, and go up from there.

Part time jobs aren' meant to live off of but they could at least pay the same pay rate across the board for all inside workers pt and ft. It' literally the same job just less hrs

 

[1989]

Part time jobs aren' meant to live off of but they could at least pay the same pay rate across the board for all inside workers pt and ft. It' literally the same job just less hrs

One could argue that pt jobs weren’t meant to give a pension or benefits.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

One could argue that pt jobs weren’t meant to give a pension or benefits.

But they always have here.

 

[trickpony1]

One could argue that pt jobs weren’t meant to give a pension or benefits.

Argue with the contract book on that.
There's language about pension and benefits.

 

[1989]

Argue with the contract book on that.
There's language about pension and benefits.

Of course there is. But it comes at a high price.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

One could argue that pt jobs weren’t meant to give a pension or benefits.

Are you serious?

 

[1989]

Are you serious?

What I am saying, is what other pt jobs have benefits and a pension?

 

[Frankie's Friend]

Of course there is. But it comes at a high price.

What the heck do you care?
We hired 6 pters recently and 6 have just quit plus another gave his 2 week notice. None of them enjoyed benefits, vacations, paid holidays, or a decent wage.

When I shipped a 20-30# pkg (cant remember the exact weight) ground service 100 miles from me it cost me about $85.
The pters we just lost didn't make that in 2 days.

Where is the relevance?
High price vs no help and continually processing and training people.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

What I am saying, is what other pt jobs have benefits and a pension?

What other pt time jobs works people into the ground like this one? Add to that the management breathing down their throats every day, some at 3 am.
This is not your basic pt time job .

 

[Frankie's Friend]

i think part timers should go on strike and start are own union

Will you guys vote then?
Sure you will.
Like ya'll show up for work you will vote.

 

[1989]

What other pt time jobs works people into the ground like this one? Add to that the management breathing down their throats every day, some at 3 am.
This is not your basic pt time job .

What does $12 an hour + benes + pension cost = ?

More than $25 an hour?

 

[Frankie's Friend]

What does $12 an hour + benes + pension cost = ?

More than $25 an hour?

In 95 starting wage for pt workers was $8 plus benefits, vacations, pd holidays included in a shorter span than today, almost a quarter of a century later, and the company was netting 1 billion yearly.
Now, net is more than 5 times that and pt wages suck.
We all know they suck.
If they progressed parallel to the full time employees wages they'd start at around $19/hr.

This is wrong but the ft votes so guess who gets what they want?

 

[Frankie's Friend]

What I am saying, is what other pt jobs have benefits and a pension?

Let me put it this way,

The part time turnover rate would be seriously slowed if the company would pay a decent wage from day one and people with good attitudes are more productive.

Give them more chips and they'll work harder and show up on time more often.