1989
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Driving starting wage was $12.67 in 1995. Now it’s 18.75ish. So pt starting wages should be a little more than driving starting wage?
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Frankie's Friend
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In two yrs you were at top rate as a full time driver.
In two years as a pter base wages were $9.00.
The wage scale jumped tremendously in 23 years for ft employees.
The pters, as I said, were still at around $9.
Drivers (ft) have an 8 hr guarantee.
Pters should have at least a 4 hr guarantee and start at $15/hr.
The pt time teamster at ups gets screwed every cba because they don't vote.
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That was a typo.
1989
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I agree a higher wage would keep people longer. You said before that the turnover rate is about that same as in the late 80s. But what is a decent wage?
Ft has a top rate with a progression. Part Timeers just get GWI. If a full time inside worker can go from starting at $16 (which it states in the book)to top out at $29.60 in 4 years then why can't' a pt employee have the same progression with a top pay.
What's does $36.2 an hr +benes+pension cost $49.2 hr and your trying to bash pt employees that have been here for 2+ contract negotiations about wanting to be paid the same as the ft inside employees for literally doing the same job and begin paid way more with benefits, insurance and pension
1989
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I guess they could pay part timers $50 an hour, like you say. But could they be competitive? Have you worked the numbers?
WorkingAsDirected
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Why don't they allow more part timers the opportunity to double shift? This way they get a better quality employee and they don't have to pay for the extra benefits and pension. Seems like a win-win situation.
PT Car Washer
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In 1985 the starting PT rate was $8/hr plus benefits which was way above minimum wage. And to tell the truth the job was easier without any overweight and oversize packages.
PT Car Washer
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They are called Art 22.3 employees. The only way UPS can fill a lot of crappy PT jobs.
1989
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Would it be better to pay pt ers the same rate, or add more Art 22. Getting away from pt employees.
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Turnover today is horrendous.
BigBrown1234
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What I am saying, is what other pt jobs have benefits and a pension?
With that argument, I could argue What other delivery job pays their drivers $36hr with 100% medical or pension contributions.
The answer is “A TEAMSTER JOB”
That money goes into the Unions controlled funds for distribution. The union is not giving that up anyway.
The entire reason to be covered under a collective bargaining agreement is you pay union dues to get better working conditions than the minimum standards covered under law.
With that argument, I could argue What other delivery job pays their drivers $36hr with 100% medical or pension contributions.
The answer is “A TEAMSTER JOB”
That money goes into the Unions controlled funds for distribution. The union is not giving that up anyway.
The entire reason to be covered under a collective bargaining agreement is you pay union dues to get better working conditions than the minimum standards covered under law.
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1989
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I was about 1 out of 6 in the late 80s. It’s always been bad
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Frankie's Friend
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FT is always better. 8 hr guarantees is definitely the better choice.
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Frankie's Friend
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Not like today's turnover. Its the worst I've ever seen it.
PT Car Washer
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I was there. It was nothing like it is today.
1989
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PT Car Washer
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All of our PT sups work everyday. Our drivers are not allowed to work before their start time.
1989
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You need to put a stop to that. If you had drivers preloading, the company would have more incentive to raise pt wages.
