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[Thebrownblob]

I see a lonely existence for her.

College has done this to a lot of women. Sadly.

 

[Babagounj]

Complaining gave us the 40 hour work week

Complaining gave us ui, ss, federal hiring program, federal min wage

Who is this "us" that you are referring to ?

 

[rickyb]

How would you know? Our college campuses are overrun with complainers.

Bc i dont see much in the news and i keep track of this stuff

There is some stuff on the campuses right now. And yet youve had satanic student debt for over 20 years, so there cant be that much

 

[rickyb]

No. When you’re actually ignorant on many subjects, or pretend you’re not and speak jibberish like your buddy, you get nothing but disrespect.

You get disrespect when you dont complain

And there goes your liberty

 

[vantexan]

Bc i dont see much in the news and i keep track of this stuff

There is some stuff on the campuses right now. And yet youve had satanic student debt for over 20 years, so there cant be that much

Students chose to take on that debt. Let the buyer beware.

 

[rickyb]

Students chose to take on that debt. Let the buyer beware.

If someone gives you a choice of die by gun or give me all your money, is that a choice?

Thats besides the point of the lack of complaining in usa

 

[Box Ox]

Squeaky wheel gets the grease. my dog knows that

If you complain more, you get more liberty

How has complaining led to more liberty for you in Canada?

Complaining gave us the 40 hour work week

Complaining gave us ui, ss, federal hiring program, federal min wage

I should have been more specific:

How has your own complaining led to more liberty for you in 21st century Canada?

 

[vantexan]

If someone gives you a choice of die by gun or give me all your money, is that a choice?

Thats besides the point of the lack of complaining in usa

That's not a legitimate analogy.

 

[rickyb]

That's not a legitimate analogy.

If youre in the desert dying of thirst and a guy offers you water in exchange for everything you got, is that a choice?

 

[Box Ox]

Students chose to take on that debt. Let the buyer beware.

If someone gives you a choice of die by gun or give me all your money, is that a choice?

Thats besides the point of the lack of complaining in usa

That's not a legitimate analogy.

If youre in the desert dying of thirst and a guy offers you water in exchange for everything you got, is that a choice?

Will something equivalent to dying by gunshot or of thirst happen to a person if they don't take on $200k in debt for a basketweaving degree?

 

[vantexan]

If youre in the desert dying of thirst and a guy offers you water in exchange for everything you got, is that a choice?

They have plenty of choices. No one forces them to take out college loans.

 

[tourists24]

Absolutely

I think religion is discrediting itself. It has failed to speak out against the evils of corporatism

North america does not have plenty of complaining, youre badly mistaken.

Religions are a dime a dozen. Not all of them agrees with yours.

 

[rickyb]

Religions are a dime a dozen. Not all of them agrees with yours.

Chris hedges specifically called out christianity in this case, but youre right theres evil in a lot of religions

 

[rickyb]

They have plenty of choices. No one forces them to take out college loans.

The freedom of a transaction depends on the choices we have

In this case youre saying either go into debt servitude and get educated, or be poor

 

[rickyb]

Will something equivalent to dying by gunshot or of thirst happen to a person if they don't take on $200k in debt for a basketweaving degree?

Its not voluntary bc the options are so bad

You cant have freedom or consent until you have the necessities of healthcare, food, shelter

Chomsky criticizes the us deviation of libertarianism bc it says its libertarian to either work for an economic dictatorship or starve

 

[tourists24]

The freedom of a transaction depends on the choices we have

In this case youre saying either go into debt servitude and get educated, or be poor

It’s not either/or. Trade schools, apprenticeships, etc. I didn’t take out a single loan for my college. I joined the Army and the GI Bill money paid it

 

[newfie]

It’s not either/or. Trade schools, apprenticeships, etc. I didn’t take out a single loan for my college. I joined the Army and the GI Bill money paid it

god to think how much good a stint in the army would have done @rickyb

 

[Fred's Myth]

god to think how much good a stint in the army would have done @rickyb

The Canadian army?

or the French Foreign Legion…

 

[newfie]

The Canadian army?

or the French Foreign Legion…

canadian would probably be all he could handle

 

[Lineandinitial]

The Canadian army?

or the French Foreign Legion…

He’d fail the first question….
“Why are you here”?