Jax Using golf cart helpers instead of cover drivers

[cino321]

Abuse? It sounds like a smart business decision as this is a very effective use of a helper.

Our mall driver drops a TP-60 in the parking lot. His helper works out of the TP-60. He has his own DIAD----would you consider him to be a driver?

I think it would be a smart business decision to can you and replace you two non-union drivers, what do you think?

 

[Wally]

Anyone working and delivering without any help or supervision is a driver, not a helper and should get driver wages. A helper may use a DIAD, but a drivers nearby, telling the helper what to do.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Anyone working and delivering without any help or supervision is a driver, not a helper and should get driver wages. A helper may use a DIAD, but a drivers nearby, telling the helper what to do.

How much supervision does a helper need while delivering residentials? This is by far the easiest thing that I have to teach my helper each year----usually takes them all of 5 minutes to figure out.

Drop off 50-100 stops, quickly orient the helper and tell him/her to call if they have any problems.

 

[grgrcr88]

Absolutely not, just because he is by himself does not justify driver status.



What is he driving? A cart.

so under your train of thought ups could have preload load up a bunch of trailers, one driver could go drop them all off somewhere and helpers could deliver all of it. Guess we only need one driver per center then.

 

[grgrcr88]

How much supervision does a helper need while delivering residentials? This is by far the easiest thing that I have to teach my helper each year----usually takes them all of 5 minutes to figure out.

Drop off 50-100 stops, quickly orient the helper and tell him/her to call if they have any problems.

Thats not a helper its a satellite route. If they were doing that here i guarantee yoi I would be filing on it, and winning!!

 

[upschuck]

Abuse? It sounds like a smart business decision as this is a very effective use of a helper.

Our mall driver drops a TP-60 in the parking lot. His helper works out of the TP-60. He has his own DIAD----would you consider him to be a driver?

Yes, A driver out of a satellite center.

so under your train of thought ups could have preload load up a bunch of trailers, one driver could go drop them all off somewhere and helpers could deliver all of it. Guess we only need one driver per center then.

If I read the posts correctly, we are talking about dropping a TP-60 off at a mall, and then a helper delivers the mall, while the driver delivers elsewhere. And yes, that is a helper job, not a driver job, if driver list is exhausted.

We have drivers drop packages off at the dock of office buildings for as long as I can remember at Christmas, and helper delivers those, calls driver to go to the next one. No difference at all except a locked TP-60 being more secure.

P.S. I meant to say hand cart, not golf cart, in case you thought I meant golf cart

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

If I lived in a subdivision I would have no problem renting out my garage to UPS to use as a drop-off point.

 

[moreluck]

Some CC&R's forbid it !! Sometimes you can't do what you feel like doing with your own property.

 

[cosmo1]

If I lived in a subdivision I would have no problem renting out my garage to UPS to use as a drop-off point.

How about the night you come home to a garage full of packages because the helper said "enough all ready" and walked home?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

How about the night you come home to a garage full of packages because the helper said "enough all ready" and walked home?

www.ebay.com

 

[scratch]

I spoke too soon, I found this at a clubhouse in my biggest sub-division yesterday. A storage unit with a gas-powered golf cart and trailer. So I get the pleasure of carrying stops and a DIAD down to this every morning and retrieving the DIAD and clerk packages at the end of the day. With no extra time allowance.

 

[Johney]

www.ebay.com

= unemployment line

 

[dogs.bite.me]

Yep, our center has done it for the last two years. And when the mis-deliverers come in.... they come ask me where I left it like im supposed to know. . . .

 

[swing_drv]

I was always told that the contract is null and void in Nov and Dec. ? And they can do what ever they want.

 

[Catatonic]

I was always told that the contract is null and void in Nov and Dec. ? And they can do what ever they want.

​That is correct.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

The contract is never "null and void"---there are provisions in there which cover operations during Peak.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I was always told that the contract is null and void in Nov and Dec. ? And they can do what ever they want.

They may act like we dont have a contract in nov ,Dec.but we do! Dont be afraid to file some grievances. Free money!.Cha ching!

 

[728ups]

In our local Grievances have established that Golf Cart Drivers are paid Cover Driver Pay(around 27.50 an hour) and not the $8.50 an hour helper pay
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[scratch]

In our local Grievances have established that Golf Cart Drivers are paid Cover Driver Pay(around 27.50 an hour) and not the $8.50 an hour helper pay
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I can't wait to tell my golf cart driver this tomorrow, she will be very happy!

 

[728ups]

I can't wait to tell my golf cart driver this tomorrow, she will be very happy!

she may have to file to get it. Higgy brought this up last meeting