Local 804 Drivers Walked Out

[bigd]

Worse part of all is that the BA in that video is on the record complaining that he doesn't make enough money!... Would anyone like to make over 125k? Just promise that you won't do anything like that!!

 

[ezmoney5150]

407 & EZMoney If there was a contractual work stopage 407 & EZMoney probably stay in the building with management with their brown noses.

I was on the picket line in '97 for two weeks. Weekends included. Were you? If you were you were one of the guys crying let us vote. I have a house payment.

 

[Stonefish]

I was on the picket line in '97 for two weeks. Weekends included. Were you? If you were you were one of the guys crying let us vote. I have a house payment.

The answer is no he wasn't on the picket line he crossed

 

[PiedmontSteward]

804's supplement gives them the right to strike if the grievance procedure is not being followed. While this doesn't give them as much leverage as a local without a no strike clause (like 705), they're much better off for it than most other locals without similar language.

Additionally, this was an unsanctioned "illegal" strike. The President and ST were likely asking the drivers to return to work because they're legally obligated to do so. It's going to be very interesting to see how this works out.

 

[jumpman23]

Its still funny as hell though PD. You gotta love seeing the BROWN MONSTER get punked down like that lol. I applaud them for having the kahunas to stick as 1 n do that. Im anxious to hear about the backlash after it though.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Honestly I dont really care. You self destruct all by yourself. You dont need my. help to do It....but with that being said, I couldnt afford the strike of 97 myself...at the time....but I put on my big boy pants and made it through it!....I truly feel sorry 4u

You are right about one thing---I don't need your "help" nor would I want it.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Honestly IVE, I feel sorry for the teamster brothers he works with....not him. I bet they wouldn't walk out in solidarity if he got fired...

...nor would I expect or want them to....

We had two casuals fired last week. One of them was on a "last chance" agreement and did something stupid which led to the termination. The other was fired for falsifying records and will most likely get his job back after a brief unpaid vacation. There was no thought of walking out in unified support for either one of them; in fact, the prevailing sentiment for the "last chance" driver was "it's about time".

The work environment in my center is much different from that of 804. We don't have the "us" vs "them" mentality clearly evident in the thread.

The only issue that I can think of offhand that I would even consider going on strike for would be a blatant disregard of or direct violation of the contract, such as unilaterally replacing seniority FT drivers with off the street hires or subcontracting our work to non-union personnel.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I will repeat what I said earlier----Truth be told I say fire em all for job abandonment.

 

[Stonefish]

You are right about one thing---I don't need your "help" nor would I want it.

You can't get it you're not in the union you're in management

 

[HBGPreloader]

Could you post a link to where you found this information?

"
Application of Principles
Employees "Suffered or Permitted" to work: Work not requested but suffered or permitted to be performed is work time that must be paid for by the employer. For example, an employee may voluntarily continue to work at the end of the shift to finish an assigned task or to correct errors. The reason is immaterial. The hours are work time and are compensable."

http://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs22.pdf

 

[browned out]

I think the drivers will keep their jobs but now the warning letters will fly for any excuse and harassment will get much worse as retribution.

I agree, ups will most certainly retaliate . They will issue warning letters and suspensions for methods violations to drivers who did participate and drivers who did not participate in the walkout, this covers their ass from legal action from participating drivers claiming company retaliation. Then they will keep going after the participating drivers,
100% on the methods everyone. Stay strong 804. Awesome job standing up to Ups's mistreatment and dishonesty towards certain employees.

 

[Johney]

I was working for a local construction firm. 10 days of the hardest work I had done in a long time. One week I worked 46 hours and took home $253. I spent the first day of the strike on the picket line but quickly decided I needed to get away from that environment. One of our guys decided to get drunk and go after anyone who didn't support our strike.


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This is why I don't interact with you and your buddy. You asked what I did during the strike and I told you. My financial obligations don't stop just because of a work stoppage (that I did not agree with). I was still paying child support at the time. My time was better spent away from the picket line.

In case you were wondering I handed my $55 strike pay check back to our BA. I didn't spend time on the line so it wouldn't have been right to get paid as though I did.


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Well we know who the drunk guy was going after. My guess is they ran you off because they were tired of listening to you.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

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[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Well we know who the drunk guy was going after. My guess is they ran you off because they were tired of listening to you.

Actually the maroon in question was going after cars that had stopped in traffic after voicing their displeasure at our work stoppage. This is one of the many reasons I only spent the one day on the line.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

804. 804 804 804. 804. 804. 804.....way to go!

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Additionally, this was an unsanctioned "illegal" strike. The President and ST were likely asking the drivers to return to work because they're legally obligated to do so. It's going to be very interesting to see how this works out.

Strike clause or not, anything like this.... needs approval by the IBT.

My initial thought is.... Local 804 stepped on Mr. Johnson. Time will tell.

The work environment in my center is much different from that of 804. We don't have the "us" vs "them" mentality clearly evident in the thread.

That is where the disconnect is. Small centers like yours.... are a different world.

Truth be told.... Most, are like the UPS utopia employee's dream of. Things make sense.

You come from a different UPS background, than most members here.


It would behove everyone.... to understand the differences.



-Bug-

 

[rod]

I was working for a local construction firm. 10 days of the hardest work I had done in a long time. One week I worked 46 hours and took home $253. I spent the first day of the strike on the picket line but quickly decided I needed to get away from that environment. One of our guys decided to get drunk and go after anyone who didn't support our strike.


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I can imagine it was hard work trying to hit a nail on the head with your nose up the foremans rear.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I can imagine it was hard work trying to hit a nail on the head with your nose up the foremans rear.

The sad part is that you are a retiree who has long since left the company yet you can't find anything better to do with your time than to spend it on an Internet forum talking about a company that you no longer work for telling stories of a company that no longer exists. That to me is the definition of pathetic.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

The sad part is that you are a retiree who has long since left the company yet you can't find anything better to do with your time than to spend it on an Internet forum talking about a company that you no longer work for telling stories of a company that no longer exists. That to me is the definition of pathetic.

Wow...glad you added to this thread!

 

[rod]

Upstate---Actually its kind of a little hobby of mine. Getting you bent out of shape. I would have probably left BC years ago if you hadn't made it so enjoyable picking on you. You are so easy.