Every time I mention TDU you come running. It's comical. But your not TDU. Jesters
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Local 804 Drivers Walked Out
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BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
He can't use Local Union funds.... to do that.
He has to use personal vacation time.... to even be there.
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member6045
Well-Known Member
This move bye Liam is all about interpretation of contract language as you guys state! Our pension increase the same way! I do not believe it is a sure thing! You will blame the company when they say it can't be done! Just in case you say it is?? So the vote count and how they voted! We know the drill now, follow the guide below.
Well? TDU has followed there text book to the letter!
1. Create chaos
2. Find loud mouths to run
3. Blame old guard
4. Tell members ups sucks
5. Sell members bs constantly
6. Lead a walkout and loose jobs
7. Blame members not the board
8. Run to media for help
9. Media no good! Blame Hoffa
10. Blame Hoffa again
11. Repeat sets 9 and 10
12. Go to TDU retreat.
Well? TDU has followed there text book to the letter!
1. Create chaos
2. Find loud mouths to run
3. Blame old guard
4. Tell members ups sucks
5. Sell members bs constantly
6. Lead a walkout and loose jobs
7. Blame members not the board
8. Run to media for help
9. Media no good! Blame Hoffa
10. Blame Hoffa again
11. Repeat sets 9 and 10
12. Go to TDU retreat.
teamster 804
Well-Known Member
Thanks for that important info.You and Big D should make broken records together.Always putting a spin on negativity.If the hall did everything right there would still be a problem.The two of you are like the divide and conquer twins.Made me realize why I stopped coming to this site,i got tired of reading the constant negative B/S, its like a nonstop campaign commercial.
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Brown Spider
Well-Known Member
The language in Article 18, Section 4 of the Local 804 Supplement is pretty damn clear. There's just not a lot of room for an interpretation that differs from the intent. It's now not a matter of interpretation, but a matter of enforcement. Pretty much the same would apply to the pension increase issue. But what would you have suggested that our elected leaders do at the bargaining table, member 6045? Once they reached a tentative agreement on the pension issue, should they have then said, "ya know what UPS, we don't think you're really going to increase the pension. You're going to tell us it can't be done, so we're withdrawing our proposal for an increase. Hah, take that UPS!"
I gotta' tell ya', member 6045, you've got to stop chasing those demons around the playground of your mind like Don Quixote chasing windmills in the pasture! And as for your textbook list of 12? I'd just like to draw your attention to #4. While you and bigd may not have noticed, UPS does indeed suck!
Imagine that... a local that wants to educate their rank and file members. Unthinkable to Old Guard mentality. As for who paid, I believe Local 804 has a Ron Carey Education Fund set up when they got in (like they promised when they ran) to take members interested in getting involved and educated. Members go to these conventions and seminars and go back to their centers energized and wanting to spread the good word how "they are not alone" ...there actually are others fighting the good fight. They learn strategies that other activist members and other activist locals use and they come back and apply them where they work. Its how you take back your local from the Old Guard. It worked here in local 804!!
Either you have political aspirations or you are just a total downer on everything. Your history on this site has been nothing but complaining and bitching about our TWICE elected E/B. I never hear a word about ups conduct or ups policies. You get a E/B who cuts its own salary...NOT GOOD ENOUGH. You get an E/B who expands coverage to all shifts...NOT GOOD ENOUGH. You get an E/B that gets you an increase in your pension and more FT jobs, etc...NOT GOOD ENOUGH. That stopped the bleeding of our health Funds...NOT GOOD ENOUGH. That actually stands up to management ...like Dave did in Melville...like Liam did in Maspeth. You did notice how all the drivers followed Liam without question!! They did that because they HAD ENOUGH with old school methods of dealing with management. They wanted new ideas and new methods to take on UPS. There might be some consequences to some of these actions BUT NOW UPS HAS TO WORRY EVERY TIME THEY DO ANYTHING AGAIN. There are consequences to both sides of this issue. Management has to learn to respect our contract and respect the members and appreciate all we contribute to the success of the company. Or else actions like this might start to become the norm. Are you listening Lousiville??
member6045
Well-Known Member
You have baby tendencies!! If it's not your way! You cry and have fits! Is your opinion and your buddies the only ones that matter here! Ok Cheryl take the forum down! The babies are upset!
Well? TDU has followed there text book to the letter!
1. Create chaos
2. Find loud mouths to run
3. Blame old guard
4. Tell members ups sucks
5. Sell members bs constantly
6. Lead a walkout and loose jobs
7. Blame members not the board
8. Run to media for help
9. Media no good! Blame Hoffa
10. Blame Hoffa again
11. Repeat sets 9 and 10
12. Go to TDU retreat.
member6045
Well-Known Member
Tim must be ballin! To drop 10k and bring up 804 members with him?? Hi Tim! Sounds like a new rumor report to defend a the GM meeting!! New business
Well? TDU has followed there text book to the letter!
1. Create chaos
2. Find loud mouths to run
3. Blame old guard
4. Tell members ups sucks
5. Sell members bs constantly
6. Lead a walkout and loose jobs
7. Blame members not the board
8. Run to media for help
9. Media no good! Blame Hoffa
10. Blame Hoffa again
11. Repeat sets 9 and 10
12. Go to TDU retreat.
teamster 804
Well-Known Member
No crying here! i tell it like it is when i am here
Thats great i am the crying baby.Your the one repeating your laundry list of sorrows,if you need i will share some of my tissues with you.
10 point
Well-Known Member
The pilots union wont cross the strike line. Can't wait to see how that all plays out.
It'll be double or nothing and then we'll see if the IBT sticks their nose in.
teamster 804
Well-Known Member
Wouldnt a strike have to be authorized by Hoffa, if so from the outside looking in he does not seem to be helping iron anything out with these supplements, so why would he authorize any strike against his buddies at UPS.He gave them unlimited time to work out the supplements.
realbrown1
Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
What has any of this have to do with you being a surrender artist?
realbrown1
Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
You don't need TDU for that. Give the OG control of your union for a few years and you will have all the chaos you can stand.
realbrown1
Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
You don't need TDU for that. Give the OG control of your union for a few years and you will have all the chaos you can stand.
realbrown1
Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
Any one can repeat their ideas in their posts over and over again.
Doesn't mean they are right.
Doesn't mean they are right.
My local has more money in its account and the guys have all been in office for about 15 years. They are all old guard and our management respects and fears them.
Or. Or!!! TDU is just being strategic in its effort to put blame on the international when in fact it is solely on a TDU run local that jumped the gun for a TDU steward. Now 250 brothers are out on their azzzz. No doubt UPS is being extreme. But that is what you get for such an extreme action in protest. 6.8% unemployment rate in NY. With a 50/50 arbitration rate? Liam, your useless to members. Go home!!
Sent using the conscience of Local 251
Sent using the conscience of Local 251
How come you are so angry? Are you one of those hard line union republicans?
