Medicare for All Price-tag 32.6 Trillion!

[El Correcto]

Advocating murdering everyone over 62? I guess that’s one solution to the problem.

No, but giant federal boondoggles raising the cost of healthcare isn’t the answer.

 

[It will be fine]

No, but giant federal boondoggles raising the cost of healthcare isn’t the answer.

The market doesn’t work in healthcare, never has, never will.

 

[BrownRecycler]

you defend the system until proven it sucks and then you blame the patient.

The only thing that I have to say about patient that they waited too long until too late. Irony. They don't even have to use the Waiting Room.

 

[MAKAVELI]

No, but giant federal boondoggles raising the cost of healthcare isn’t the answer.

Insurance companies raise the the cost of healthcare not the government. Ttku

 

[Old Man Jingles]

Advocating murdering everyone over 62? .

I never said I supported National Healthcare.

 

[Box Ox]

her practice would no longer accept medicare

Wow. I'd always thought low reimbursement rates were more of a Medicaid thing. All of the retirees I know seem to really like Medicare compared to former private plans.

 

[Box Ox]

SO ... how long have you been on Medicare?

I've been on a year now ... I can't get a knee replacement under Medicare that I could get if I had just UPS Retiree insurance.

Maybe you can now? Looks like outpatient surgery started being covered in January.

Medicare to Pay for Outpatient Knee Replacement Surgery

 

[El Correcto]

The market doesn’t work in healthcare, never has, never will.

Never had a chance to, not sure what you are talking about.

 

[vantexan]

No need to, your thoughts are shallow enough to Wade across.

And you're a paragon of intellectualism.

 

[It will be fine]

Never had a chance to, not sure what you are talking about.

We currently operate in a market based health insurance system. Where are you getting lost?

 

[El Correcto]

We currently operate in a market based health insurance system. Where are you getting lost?

As the medical industry advanced into something we could recognize today it was mainly employer paid for. The coal mines and railroad workers got insurance offered to them to make up for lost wages and medical bills.

There hasn’t been a system of consumer driven pricing since the late 1800s basically.

They charge more than they would if they didn’t know the consumer wasn’t going out of pocket 100%. Even today you can negotiate 50% cuts to your medical bill if you are the uninsured payer.

 

[El Correcto]

When more people started getting insured by their employers, more people started consuming healthcare. Prices went up and old folks/jobless people were priced out, government stepped in and even more people started consuming healthcare, price raised even more.

 

[El Correcto]

I don’t think we should continue the vicious cycle of government and insurance reliance.

The medical industry needs to be deregulated in some big ways, to cut cost and allow it to grow to keep up with demand.

 

[El Correcto]

Democrats are proposing more government and government regulations. With massive spending and adding a beauracracy bill on top of your medical bills. I don’t agree with that.

 

[It will be fine]

When more people started getting insured by their employers, more people started consuming healthcare. Prices went up and old folks/jobless people were priced out, government stepped in and even more people started consuming healthcare, price raised even more.

So your argument is there is too much access to healthcare? If people didn’t get insurance they wouldn’t be able to afford services, lowering demand and lowering prices? That doesn’t sound good to me.

 

[Sportello]

And you're a paragon of intellectualism.

I thought you'd enjoy my word choice.

 

[newfie]

That goes right to @vantexan. You’re not too clever, are you?

clever enough to call you on your contrived BS.

 

[El Correcto]

So your argument is there is too much access to healthcare? If people didn’t get insurance they wouldn’t be able to afford services, lowering demand and lowering prices? That doesn’t sound good to me.

They charge more than they would if they didn’t know the consumer wasn’t going out of pocket 100%. Even today you can negotiate 50% cuts to your medical bill if you are the uninsured payer.

The medical industry needs to be deregulated in some big ways, to cut cost and allow it to grow to keep up with demand.

Democrats are proposing more government and government regulations. With massive spending and adding a beauracracy bill on top of your medical bills. I don’t agree with that.

 

[vantexan]

I thought you'd enjoy my word choice.

I noticed.

 

[El Correcto]